[Advaita-l] Ramana's method

[Swami Sarvabhutananda]

OM
His parentage,his prArabdA his methodology and the jignAsA,environment etc
cannot be compared!!
In fact every human being or a living being is unique in this creation!!!
wishes
Swami Sarvabhutananda

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Sudhakar Kabra <sudhakarkabra at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Dear Sir,
> In what way he was unique and why it cannot be compared.
> Regards
> Kabra
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Swami Sarvabhutananda <swami.sarvabhutananda at gmail.com>
> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Ramana's method
>
> OM
> One has to understand that BHgavAn RamanA can in noway comparable to any
> human being and he was a unique personality!!
> Sw.Sarvabhutananda
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Sanjay Srivastava
> <sksrivastava68 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Dear Sri Suresh:
> >
> > With due regards to opinion of Sri Sadnanda and others, let me point
> > out that Bhagwan Ramana's method as understood by his close disciples
> > including Sri Sadhu Om, Sri Murugannar, Sri Laxman Sharma etc. is
> > quite different from shAstra vichAra as advocated by traditional
> > vedanta. By close disciples I do not mean just having physical
> > proximity with Sri Bhagwan. They actually imbibed Sri Bhagwan's method
> > and occasionally got confirmation by Sri Bhagwan himself. There is no
> > reason to believe that somehow Sri Bhagwan's close disciples missed
> > his message, which others who did not have any contact with him, are
> > privy. Moreover I do not think that people like Sri Sadhu Om, Sri
> > Murugannar, Sri Laxman Sharma can be placed in what is pejoratively
> > called "neo advaitin" group.
> >
> > Sri Laxman Sharma was actually a vedic scholar and well versed in the
> > method of traditional vedanta, which he considered ineffective. He has
> > mentioned that for him Upanishads are useful only to the extent they
> > confirm Sri Bhagwan's  words, which are the primary authority for him.
> > Clearly this stand will be considered a blasphemy in traditional
> > vedanta circles.
> >
> > Bhagwan Ramana's method is based on self attentiveness. shAstra
> > vichAra is purely incidental in this method and is dispensable after
> > hearing it once from a sage. After hearing it once efforts are
> > required only to maintain self attentiveness 24 X 7. Asking "Who am I"
> > is not a verbal enquiry but a tool to maintain 24 X 7 self abidance,
> > which is the primary method of self realization. You can get the
> > clearest expression of Sri Bhagwan's method in Sri Sadhu Om's "Path of
> > Sri Ramana - Part 1" and in Sri Michael James' "Happiness and the Art
> > of Being".
> >
> > It is true that Sri Bhagwan often used traditional advaitic concepts
> > to illustrate his points. However, when quotes from scriptures of
> > other traditions were put to him, he was able to give advaitic
> > interpretation to them with equal effortlessness. If you visit various
> > discussions on arunachala-ramana forum you will find that there is lot
> > of resentment among Sri Bhagwan's disciples against traditional
> > advaita vedanta school that this school is actually twisting Sri
> > Bhagwan's message to establish shAstra vichAra as the true self
> > enquiry, while Sri Bhagwan never intended this. There is another
> > charge against this school that even though it calls itself
> > "traditional vedanta", it is not traditional at all. In view of Sri
> > Bhagwan's devotees, the lineage of so called "traditional vedanta" is
> > actually quite modern and starts from Sri Chinmayananda Swami - not
> > before. If you explore the lineage of traditional vedanta teachers
> > today, it seems to merge at Sri Chinmayananda Swami. There does not
> > seem to be any visible effort to trace this lineage to Bhagwan
> > Shankara. Hence Bhagwan Ramana's devotees question "traditional
> > vedanta" school's claim to "traditional" label.
> >
> > praNAm
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:07 AM, kuntimaddi sadananda
> > <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Shree Suresh - who am I, enquiry will only give the answer to who am I,
> > if it is done properly by anvaya vyatiraka logic or avasthaatraya or
> > pancakosha viveka, by negating whom I am not as I am. That is only tvam
> > padartha vichaara or inquiry of one aspect of tat tvam asi - you are tha.
> > > To undestand what I have rejected that which I am not, is also I am -
> as
> > stated in the tat tvam asi -I am that - mahavaakya vichaara, one needs
> > shaastra pramaaNa and therfore requires a teacher who can teach the
> > saastras. Many Ramana followers and many neo advaitins do not understand
> > this problem and think we do not need to study shaastras and all we need
> to
> > do sit down and findout who am I - without realizing Bhagavan Ramana has
> > himself selected many slokas from Geeta and Vivekachudaamani for study
> and
> > help in this enquiry.
> > > Hari Om!
> > > Sadananda
> > >
> > >
> > >>________________________________
> > >> From: Suresh <mayavaadi at yahoo.com>
> > >>To: Advaita <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> > >>Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 1:15 PM
> > >>Subject: [Advaita-l] Ramana's method
> > >>
> > >>Namaste,
> > >>
> > >>Many people are of the view that Ramana's method of self-inquiry is
> > effective to realize nondual awareness. But I am confused. By asking who
> am
> > I, are we supposed to find an answer? What exactly is the point of the
> > inquiry?
> > >>
> > >>Looking for some insights.
> > >>
> > >>Thanks,
> > >>Suresh
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