[Advaita-l] Need information on learning Vedas online

[Srirudra]

Dear Shree Krishna
I will not agree that one can know/understand or even recite the Vedas without knowledge of. Samskrit.You may read the commentaries in different languages but to get the spirit of the Vedic sabdhas Samskrit is a must.Seeing a foreign tongue movie with subtitles in the language you know will not be so satisfying as your understanding the conversations in the language in which the movie is made.R.Krishnamoorthy.

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On 21-Aug-2013, at 7:20 AM, Shreekrishna <sumadhwavijaya at gmail.com> wrote:

> SrigurubhyO namaH
> 
> Respected members,
> 
> This is an interesting discussion. I am of the opinion that India is as
> difficult an atmosphere as any other part of the world to pursue
> vaidika-sampradAya in. The ideal jij~jAsu, in my opinion, perhaps couldn't
> care lesser what the world outside is like, insofar as he has created a
> conducive atmosphere for his sAdhana and adhyayana, no matter where he
> lives. Deliberations on how much puNya there is in any AdhyAtmic pursuit
> staying in a land that does not qualify as karmabhUmi is outside the
> purview of this discussion, for as far as the ideal jij~jAsu is concerned,
> puNyArjana should perhaps become an incidental gain enroute to a much
> larger objective (which in some sense is going to be related to something
> pAramArthika). As we do know, IshAvAsya emphasizes - "kurvannEvEha karmANi
> .... ".
> 
> The above said, I am as far from the ideal jij~jAsu as I possibly can be.
> Living in an alien land has its limitations and contributes a wee bit to my
> distance from being an ideal jij~jAsu. Nonetheless, I have found over the
> years, that there are a few more hours in the day that I obtain to invest
> in something less corporeal, as opposed to losing those hours stuck in
> traffic in Indian metros. For me, the journey into the world of vEdAs is a
> both a matter of jij~jAsA and a matter of learning something that in a
> sense is "rightfully/dutifully mine" and passing it on to posterity. It may
> not be entirely inappropriate to state that the number of authoritative
> Sanskrit scholars or shAstra exponents outnumber those who are
> authoritative dvivedins/trivedins. This, by no means, undermines the
> importance of any of these aforementioned sections of the society. I just
> feel that they are very different ballgames, sometimes with very different
> purposes.
> 
> I live in what I could call a hamlet in southeast USA, where the cumulative
> brahmin-by-birth population might not even be quarter-a-century, let alone
> the ones who perform sandhyAvandanam and associated nityakarmas. To some
> like us, who have an ounce of curiosity/interest at this time in life (and
> who knows how life will change) but not the local bandwidth to feel
> satiated, it is just a desire to make hay while the sun shines, that we
> have to resort to non-traditional media to learn vEdAs or shAstrAs. Then
> again, I do chicken out from giving my career and comforts up for learning
> vEdAs at Kashi or Kanchi. So, Skype/GTalk could come to the rescue of some
> of us who populate this weird stranded-at-various-levels space, who really
> want to have the cake and eat it too.
> 
> Finally, I may have to disagree that a knowledge of Sanskrit relieves one
> from the "crutches of translations" based on what really was meant by
> translations, but in the event that they were references to bhAShyas or
> commentaries, it would not be an unfair assessment of the current society
> that there are few who can claim to have understood prasthAnatrayI
> flawlessly without the help of *some* commentary or the other.
> 
> Thanks for your time, suggestions and opinions.
> 
> sarvE bhadrANi pashyantu,
> HarayE namaH
> Shreekrishna.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Rajaram Venkataramani <
> rajaramvenk at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I agree.
>> 
>> Is any senior vaidhika in sringeri or any other place protecting vaidhika
>> dharma in traditional manner opposed to learning over skype?
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2013, Rajaram Venkataramani wrote:
>>> 
>>> RV: What is the reason? As Vedas are sakshat Ishwara and chanting itself
>>>> is
>>>> a great upasana, I thought it is highly desirable to learn Vedas more
>> than
>>>> Sanskrit.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Recitation (svAdhyAya) is important no doubt but the vedas also have a
>>> practical use.  They are not just some super bhajan.  In particular
>>> diligent performance of nitya and naimittika karma is a must for all
>>> Brahmanas.  Thus knowing the mantras and procedure for that is top
>> priority
>>> but after that there are other things.
>>> 
>>> Today everyone and anyone are claiming vedic this and vedic that.  There
>>> is so much bad information out there (E.g. this Vidushekhara Bhattacharya
>>> affair.) and it is less likely ou will be misled by the unscrupulous if
>> you
>>> are well-informed.  This is a particular concern for those who are
>> isolated
>>> from the astika community whether insider bharat or outside.
>>> 
>>> Also if we are going to be established outside of Vedic cultures
>>> traditional environment (again in India or outside) we need to build up a
>>> proper infrastructure to ensure our continued progress.  Too many times
>>> I've seen people get overenthusiastic, bite off more than they can chew
>> and
>>> then flame out.  And n particular we who are parents need to be literate
>> so
>>> we can ensure our children are dharmically literate.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The latter is no doubt important to learn especially to access
>>>> literatures that have not been translated properly or to understand the
>>>> explanations.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> As you increase your sanskrit knowledge, you will find translations to be
>>> crutches you can increasingly do without.
>>> 
>>> 
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