[Advaita-l] Mayavada Darpanam

[Nithin Sridhar]

To remind everyone, it was Vidyaranya who was behind the establishment of
Mighty Vijayanagara empire against the Islamic dynasties. Tipu made
donations to Sringeri and helped it when Marathas invaded is facts of
history. I know Tipu was no saint but was a Islamist.

Anyways, to expect a Sanyasi to express opinion on every issue of worldly
nature is funny.

I think, I should stop now. I would not post anything else in the thread.

-Nithin


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Namaste
>
> I have no personal grudge against Sringeri Swamiji. Only I am pointing out
> facts everybody can see. In Sringeri history records they have said Muslims
> rulers like Hyder Ali and Tippu Sultan helped them. But the Sringeri
> Swamijis ignored what happened in Somnath in Gujarat.
>
> When they are worshipping Chandra Mauleeshwara Linga comfortably sitting in
> Sringeri how can they forget the looting and desecration of Jyotirlinga
> Somnath by Ghazni Mohammad for 17 times? How can a Mathadhipati ignore
> attacks on Hindu Kshetras and become friendly with the temple looting
> terrorists? Is Gujarat not part of Bharata Desha? Are not people of Gujarat
> following Sanatan Dharma like people in Sringeri? Some Mysore people also
> say in Tippu Sultan's time many Hindus were forcibly converted. His
> minister Purniah was Madhva follower. Even today Sringeri people think
> Tippu Sultan was good and Purniah was bad. Very strange thinking.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Nithin Sridhar <sridhar.nithin at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Is is not true that a bigger crisis in the society as a whole is that
> > people are not  even adhering to Samanya Dharma of Satya etc? Sringeri
> > Guruji in most of his speech advice people to practicing Dharma. The  Q
> is
> > how many are listening?
> >
> > Secondly, Is Shankaracharya a Jagadguru or just a Guru of Vaidikas? Think
> > about it.
> >
> > Criticism of Islam on Ideological level is one thing, finding fault with
> > our Guru's is completely different. Have we become competent enough to
> > Judge or Criticize such people as Sringeri Guruji?
> > _______
> >
> > I am not saying anybody is above criticism. But, criticism should be
> > genuine and elaborate and not mere personal attacks or judgements.
> >
> > -Nithin
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Namaste
> > >
> > > I agree with RV. The Sringeri and other Math are friendly with Muslims.
> > But
> > > Muslims are hell bent on increasing the population of Muslims by having
> > > four wives and many children with no birth control. The Sringeri
> Swamiji
> > is
> > > not able to solve the shortage of Brides for Vaidika Brahmin
> > Bridegrooms.At
> > > the same time he is happy to use gifts from Muslims and Muslim Kings.
> Why
> > > he is not asking in his speeches to give daughters in marriage to
> > Vaidikas.
> > > Is it not his duty to protect Vaidika Dharma and make it to continue
> for
> > > ever? If Vaidikas dont get wives they can not have boys to learn Vedas.
> > >
> > > I know one Madhva Swamiji has asked fathers to give daughters to
> Vaidikas
> > > to protect Vaidika Dharma.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:29 AM, <rajaramvenk at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Sri Jaldhar,
> > > >
> > > > I shared the view with the intent of protection of dharmic traditions
> > in
> > > > mind. I thought any one is welcome to share their views on this forum
> > > just
> > > > as you would allow guests in your house to speak for dharma as they
> > deem
> > > > fit. If we don't share our thoughts (and remain open to correction),
> > how
> > > > can we learn?
> > > >
> > > > If you equate vaishnavism (vishishtadvaita, dwaita etc.), which are
> > self
> > > -
> > > > consistent philosophical systems to abrahmic cults, the onus is on
> you
> > to
> > > > prove that it is the case.
> > > >
> > > > Kristhu Madha Kandanam (condemnation of christianity) by saivAcharya
> is
> > > > the only quality critique I have seen by a traditional mutt. It
> stopped
> > > > conversions in Kerala. If you know the works of traditional mutts
> that
> > > > critique Christianity and Islam in a scholarly manner, please point
> > them
> > > > out. Buddhists have done it and hence captured the imagination of
> > > > intellectuals all over the world. On the other hand, even the
> Sringeri
> > > > acharyas have defended Islam and Christianity leave alone ISKCON
> which
> > is
> > > > evangelical. Such defences can't stand the scrutiny using facts and
> > > logic.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > RV
> > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <jaldhar at braincells.com>
> > > > Sender: "Advaita-l" <advaita-l-bounces at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> >Date:
> > > > Tue, 17 Dec 2013 00:36:48
> > > > To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta<
> > > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> > > > Reply-To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta
> > > >  <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Mayavada Darpanam
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 16 Dec 2013, Rajaram Venkataramani wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > While Hindu traditions engage in pointless polemics, missionaries
> > > convert
> > > > > and muslims do a demographic siege. How many have the courage to
> > oppose
> > > > > Islam or Christianity? Even our mathathipathis support Islam and
> > > > > Christianity unmindful of the damage they cause to traditional
> > > > institutions.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1. "The pointless polemics" as you call them are equally useful
> against
> > > > anky kind of monotheism which is basically just an unsophisticated
> > > dvaita.
> > > >
> > > > 2.  The future of Hinduism belongs to the educated not illiterates no
> > > > matter how much they beat their chests and "oppose."
> > > >
> > > > 3.  You have no idea what the author is doing or not doing.  You have
> > no
> > > > idea what anyone on this list is doing or not doing.  So keep your
> > > > editorializing to yourself it is not welcome here.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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> > > -Venkatesh
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> -Venkatesh
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