[Advaita-l] On rationality; was "Vedas are not apauresheya according to the Vedas ?"

[Swami Sarvabhutananda]

OM
your attitudinal change of looking at shAstrA without any bias and as a
critic is appreciated.
Let there be ISVARA's GRACE on you.
wishes and love.
Swami Sarvabhutananda

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:42 PM, <rajaramvenk at gmail.com> wrote:

> Advaitins have it also. Mani Dravid Sastrigal spent 3 hours explaining
> this to me. It seemed clear then but am unable to counter some of the
> arguments from kalavai and kk on my blog. I am taking the opponent's views
> away to do my home work. I'm always thanks to my critics because they end
> up improving my understanding.
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Srinath Vedagarbha <svedagarbha at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:10:37
> To: <rajaramvenk at gmail.com>; A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta<
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] On rationality; was "Vedas are not apauresheya
>  according to the Vedas ?"
>
> >
>
> > Dwaitins and Gaudiyas have a cogent argument based on Madhwa and Jiva
>
> > respectively. It is worth evaluating. Mani Dravid Sastrigal did present a
> cogent
>
> > and logical Advaita view. I plan to catch up with him to clarify doubts.
>
>
>
> As far as I know there is no effort in any classical Advaitic texts
> (excluding modern texts) on elaborated arguments defending apouruShEyatvaM.
> May be I am wrong.
>
>
>
> SV
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:50 AM, <rajaramvenk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If apauresheyatva has to be accepted because the tradition says so, then
> > there is no reason to give logical arguments to opponents including the
> > famous "show me the author". In fact, follower of any faith can accept
> the
> > tenets of his faith blindly.
> >
> > The fact is apauresheyatva was established and defended using logic by
> > mimamsakas and vedantins in the past. We don't study them and evaluate
> them
> > critically or upgrade those arguments for modern context.
> >
> > Dwaitins and Gaudiyas have a cogent argument based on Madhwa and Jiva
> > respectively. It is worth evaluating. Mani Dravid Sastrigal did present a
> > cogent and logical Advaita view. I plan to catch up with him to clarify
> > doubts.
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com>
> > Sender: advaita-l-bounces at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:42:16
> > To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta<
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> > Reply-To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta
> >         <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] On rationality;
> >  was "Vedas are not apauresheya according to the Vedas ?"
> >
> > As I have repeatedly said, let us not bother about the outsiders. Ishwara
> > will take care of them.  Since it is no problem for both of us, we shall
> > go
> > the way our elders have gone.  At least for me, it was as natural as fish
> > taking to water.  So is it with the millions of astika-s.
> >
> > praNAms Sri Subbu prabhuji
> > Hare Krishna
> >
> > Thanks for your patience and clarification.  As I said earlier, if we,
> > both, are standing under the same vedic umbrella, there is no need for
> any
> > discussion on aparusheyatva vAda.  Nor I would  be asking for any pramANa
> > to prove that aparusheyatva.  A simple clarification from our
> bhagavatpAda
> > or any traditionally respected Acharya about veda nityatva and
> > apaurusheyatva would be enough for me accept it and  to restrict myself
> > from asking further question.  Questions & doubts arise once you come out
> > of that traditional box & started looking at it as  an outsider, that is
> > what I did by assuming the role of devil's advocate !!  Anyway, it
> pinches
> > me somewhere that I cannot take my sAmpradAyik stand on aparusheyatva of
> > veda-s to outside to show the supremacy of my shAstra over other
> religious
> > texts and works.
> >
> > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> > bhaskar
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