[Advaita-l] karma for sannyasis

[V Subrahmanian]

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:09 PM, <rajaramvenk at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there any pramana to renounce bhagavad bhakti? On what basis are yatis
> allowed one type of ajnAnA (bhakti, pranava japam etc.) but disallowed
> another (progeny, cattle)?
>

The former type of ajnAna is liberating in nature and the latter is
binding.  The logic is well laid out in the Bh.Gita karma yoga.  karma, by
nature, being avidyA-born (Br.up. teaches the sequence: avidyA, kAma and
karma (and bandha) ) is binding in nature.  Yet when done as karma-yoga is
not only non-binding, but liberating, that is, it facilitates liberation by
taking the aspirant to jnAna yoga.  But the other type of ajnAna, cattle,
etc. will be binding and not liberating; they tighten one's bonds.



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> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Rajaram Venkataramani <
> rajaramvenk at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Hare Krishna. I would like to understand the specific karma that is
> > ordained for sannyasis.
>
>
> Shri Sriram has replied this part.
>
>
> > If a sannyasi is a jivan mukta, how can any one ordain him to do any
> thing?
>
>
> If he is a jivanmukta and takes sannyasa it is called 'vidvat sannyasa' and
> if he is in any institution he will follow the yati dharma like daily danDa
> tarpaNam, rituals with baths, chAturmAsyam, dIkShA visarjanam of specific
> days, etc.  On the other hand, if he is an avadhUta, then he is a wandering
> one with no prescriptions to follow.  What was said above is for the
> benefit of others rather than for the jivanmukta-sannyasin's own benefit.
>
>
>
> > Also, what is the shruti / smrti pramana for
> > sannyasis to give up karma?
> >
>
> The jAbAla upaniShad 'yadaharEva virajEt tadaharEva pravarjEt'  ['The day
> on which a person attains strong dispassion let him renounce that very day,
> from whichever Ashrama he is in.]
>
> Then there is the famous Br.up. 4.4.22 and 3.5.1. The Tai.AraNyaka 'na
> karmaNA na prajayA dhanena tyAgenaike amRtatvam AnashuH.'    [neither by
> karma, nor by progeny or by wealth, but by renouncing (these along with
> their means) some attain to immortality] can be seen as shruti pramANa for
> sannyAsa, both vividiShA and vidwat.
>
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