[Advaita-l] Eternal Loka

[Rajaram Venkataramani]

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 7:19 PM, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Rajaram Venkataramani <
> rajaramvenk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There is a contradiction in the following two statements about what
> happens
> > on mahapralaya. Do Ishwara and Vedas become one Parabrahman or Ishwara
> > (Avyakta)? The key question for the topic of our discussion is what
> happens
> > to the infinite knowledge of Ishwara. It has to exist in some state or
> else
> > it will be impossible to resume the universe.
> >
>
> I do not see any contradiction. Ishwara's knowledge is only inferred by
> his actions/products.  That is how the janmAdi sutra bhashyam describes.
>  And since nothing can come out of non-existence, it is held that Ishwara
> is in avyakta avasthA.  Ishwara is non-different from his vyakta form, that
> is the world, and the avyakta state, that is the nascent state of the
> to-be-manifest world.  I do not see any difficulty in this.
>
> RV:  According to Shri Jaldhar Vyas Ishwara and Vedas lose their identity
> or in other words become one with parabrahman. According to you, Ishwara
> remains as avyakta. These are not equivalent and contradictory unless you
> say that Ishwara as Avyakta is non-different from Parabrahman.