[Advaita-l] Reply to Sri Vidyamanya Tirtha's observations

[Sujal Upadhyay]

Namaste,

IMHO, Limited efforts cannot give unlimited result.
Jnana is not obtained by any process. A-jnana is removed.

Adi Shankara also authored Dakshinamurthy stotra.

'Dakshinamurty', the name itself says everything :)

Karma prepares one to get Jnana or for doing nidhidhyAsana, atma chintan.
Karma.

One may argue, meditation is also a mAnsika karma. If one meditates, one
will know that it is s journey from effort to effortless.

After initially chanting OM, OM continues by itself. You do not need to
chant OM. In this way meditation becomes just awareness, awareness into
source of OM. You are not doing everything.

Sri Ramakrishna says, 'Initially, a nAvika has to do much effort and fight
against the wind. But after nAvika, aligns the cloth (ShaDa) of his sail
boat with wind he will sit down, relax and smoke hukka :)

It is said that initially, the path is like poison, but later practise
becomes nectar.

OM

Sujal

"To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi

He who has faith has all
He who lacks faith, lacks all
It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Kindly see the Sankara Bhashya for Br Up 4-4-22 - Tametam
>  Vedanuvacanena Brahmana Vividishanti Yajnena Danena Tapasa Anashakena. Adi
> Sankara is saying Dravya Yajnaa Jnaana Yajnaasca Samskrutaarthaaha,
> Samskrutasya Vishuddha Sattvasya Jnaanotpattir Apratibandhena Bhavishyati.
> The Jnana will come automatically when the Mind is purified by Yajnas. He
> does not have to do anything more.
>
> After some more sentences he is saying again Evam Kaamyavarjitam Nityam
> Karmajaatam Sarvam Atma Jnaanotpattidvaarena Moksha Saadhanatvam
> Pratipadyate. All the Nitya Karma is a Moksha Saadhana by giving Atma
> Jnaana. He is not saying you have to first do Nitya Karma then take
> Sannyasa. Then you get Atma Jnaana. Then Moksha. No. The Karma will
> directly give Atma Jnaana. How? Because it will remove the Obstacle for
> Jnana. The Removing of Obstacles is done by Action only. Upanishad Vakyas
> only will give Paroksha Jnana if the Obstacle is still there. But Karma
> will give the Aparoksha Jnana by removing the obstacle.
>
> For thousands of years people have not understood this Adi Sankara's
> importance to Karma and they are arguing he was against rituals.
>
> I think Adi Sankara has agreed with Mandana Mishra here. Both are saying
> same thing.
>
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