[Advaita-l] What exactly is karma saNyAsa??

[Srirudra]

Dear Sri Nitin Sridhar
You say that Nirguna Brahman and SagunaBrahman are one and the same.Further say that Nirguna Brahman appears by His own maya as SagunaBrahman.WhyHe should do it?I think
In our ignorance only we think like that and we should strive to clear this cloud.Brahman is the only reality and whatever is seen/heard as manifested is unreal or mithya.R.Krishnamoorthy

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> On 16-Nov-2013, at 3:38 pm, Nithin Sridhar <sridhar.nithin at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It must also be kept in mind that, Saguna Brahman and Nirguna Brahman are
> not "Two Brahmans". It is same Brahman who in Reality is Nirguna, appears
> by his own Maya as Saguna Brahman. In other words, when Brahman is
> understood in his Absolute state, he is called Nirguna and when Brahman is
> understood in his aspect of manifestation, he is called as "Saguna Brahman".
> 
> I would like to share these two pieces I wrote sometime ago-
> 
> Nature of Brahman-
> http://nithinsridhar.wordpress.com/2013/04/13/random-musings-part-4-nature-of-brahman-god/
> 
> Notes on Para-Brahman-
> http://nithinsridhar.wordpress.com/2013/09/26/random-musings-part-14-notes-on-para-brahman/
> 
> Regards,
> Nithin
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> SV: So, same question as Sri.Rajaram asked -- why should a jnAni should
>> listen
>> unreal bhagavAn for the betterment of equally unreal ajnAni-s?
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> SaguNa Brahman cease to exist only in Nirvikalp Samadhi. Even
>> 'samadarshina' means to see Atman in everything. If we take darshan as 'to
>> know', then to know everything is Atman. In this case too we 'see' or
>> 'know', even though it is equality. We should not forget that when under
>> ignorance we were guided by Ishvara through Guru. If Guru takes everything
>> upon himself, then the ego arises. Hence even he does not take credit upon
>> himself. Either he gives credit to God or to his Guru. Guru's Guru gives
>> credit to his Guru and it goes on till we reach nArAyaNa or Shiva as Adi
>> Guru. Our Guru Parampara begins with both of them.
>> 
>> It is said that when in front of Guru, we have to be in dvaita bhAva. Hence
>> under the command of Guru, who is embodiment of Ishvara, though in non-dual
>> state, Jnani comes down from Nirvikalp samadhi for the good of all. If
>> Jnani does not come down, then who is going to teach the ignorant? At one
>> time, even Jnani was ignorant.
>> 
>> However, it is said that Jnani can cast off his mortal coil at will, but
>> always works as per divine plan.
>> 
>> Aum
>> 
>> OM
>> 
>> Sujal Upadhyay
>> 
>> "To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
>> nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi
>> 
>> He who has faith has all
>> He who lacks faith, lacks all
>> It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
>> FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Srinath Vedagarbha
>> <svedagarbha at gmail.com>wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Will a jnani not know that even bhagavan is unreal and his svarupa is
>>>>> brahman? Why should he listen to someone who doesn't exist?
>>> 
>>>> The answer exists in the cited verse itself:  it is for the benefit of
>> the
>>>> ajnani-s.  He should not unsettle the belief of the samsarin-s who act
>>>> based on their faith in the veda.
>>> 
>>> Again, same question can be asked -- wouldn't a jnAni know other ajnAni-s
>>> are equally  unreal just as bhagavAn (even though svarUpa of both
>> bhagavAna
>>> and ajnAni-s re brahman).
>>> 
>>> So, same question as Sri.Rajaram asked -- why should a jnAni should
>> listen
>>> unreal bhagavAn for the betterment of equally unreal ajnAni-s?
>>> 
>>> -SV
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