[Advaita-l] Reply to Sri Vidyamanya Tirtha's observations

[H S Chandramouli]

H S CHANDRAMOULI

Dear Sri Vidyashankarji,

I absolutely agree with you. My point was only in respect of a sadhaka
which means one who has not yet attained jnana.

Regards


On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Vidyasankar Sundaresan <
svidyasankar at hotmail.com> wrote:

> > H S CHANDRAMOULI
> >
> > Dear Sri Vidyashankarji,.
> >
> > I have a small correction to make in your reply. You say < Either way,
> > the process has to go through
> > a state where karmA is renounced, either formally in the traditional
> > conception of vividishA saMnyAsa
> > or as a matter of course, no matter what ASrama they find themselves in
> > .
> > Bhagavatpada is very clear that at this stage of one's sadhana it is
> > absolutely essential to take to sanyasa ashrama for reaching the Goal of
> > Brahma jnana( ref Brahma Sutra Bhashya 3-4-20. This also has cross
> > references to various shruti / smriti vakyas . It is only in exceptional
> > cases that this jnana arises even in persons ( like king Janaka or
> Vamadeva
> > for example ) who are in other ashramas but it is concluded that in such
> > cases they would have undergone the due process of sanyasa ashrama in one
> > of their earlier janmas.
>
>
> Let me clarify. I am not saying anything about saMnyAsa as an ASrama beyond
> noting that formal entry into it is possible for the vividishA case. What
> I mean
> about the giving up of karmA when jnAna arises, no matter the ASrama of the
> person, is the following. This is admittedly a rare case, but if and when
> that
> happens, the subsequent saMnyAsa is a matter of course. This is what is
> called
> vidvat saMnyAsa. I do not mean to say anything else about the conduct of
> such
> a person. In the case of formal saMnyAsa for the jignAsu, the giving up of
> karmA
> is a means to realize one's intrinsic a-kartRtva. In the case of vidvat
> saMnyAsa,
> a-kartRtva is already established.
>
>
>
> It is only to accommodate both these possibilities that the jAbAlopanishat
> says,
> brahmacaryAd vA gRhAd vA vanAd vA ... yad ahar eva virajet tad ahar eva
> pravrajet.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Vidyasankar
>
>
>
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