[Advaita-l] Maya and Sunrise Example

[Srirudra]

Dear Sri Sadananda
Mirage water is no water.It is an illusion.But sunrise or sunset are real in the sense that they are true phenomenon.I think adhyaasa is applicable to Mirage water or necre in a shell .But in sun rise there is no error in perception. Sun does rise if the motion of earth's rotation is transferred to sun as we work in relative velocity problems.R.Krishnamoorthy.


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> On 02-Feb-2014, at 5:44 pm, kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Shree Krishnamurthy - PraNAms
> 
> There are two types of adhyaasa or errors in perception -one is mirage waters or sunrise and sunset and the other is rope/snake. Both are relevant in understanding Advaita Vedanta. For the analysis of errors in perception see analysis presented in Vedanta Paribhasha. 
> Hari Om!
> Sadananda
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> On Sun, 2/2/14, Srirudra <srirudra at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Maya and Sunrise Example
> To: "Suresh" <mayavaadi at yahoo.com>, "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org

> Date: Sunday, February 2, 2014, 6:00 AM
> 
> Dear Sri Suresh
> I do not agree.Sunrise is true as perceived by the eyes.But
> it's cause is different.Sun is stationary but earth's
> rotation about its axis causes the phenomenon.One can not
> say there is no sunrise.Rope snake is more appropriate for
> wrong perception.R.Krishnamoorthy.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On 25-Jan-2014, at 6:21 pm, Suresh <mayavaadi at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Friends,
>> 
>> Most people explain maya using the snake-rope example
> (or silver, mirage etc.), but wouldn't the sunrise example
> be better? Rope-snake example leads to the problem: there is
> an error in perception, which is later on corrected. In
> sunrise example, there is no error in perception. According
> to perception - which is never corrected - sun rises,
> period. 
>> 
>> 
>> Point is, the event called sunrise is false, yet we
> perceive it 100 times out of 100 .... establishing that even
> if perception isn't faulty, it still gives us wrong
> knowledge. Also that if something is perceived, it doesn't
> necessarily have to be true. Sunrise (jagat) is clearly
> perceived, yet it is false. Earth's movement (Brahman) is
> not perceived, yet it is true. 
>> 
>> 
>> So wouldn't the sunrise example be better in explaining
> maya, ignorance, and all the rest? 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Suresh
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