[Advaita-l] MuktikA Upanishad / MuktikOpanishat cited by srI VidyAraNya svAmI in PanchdaSI

[Sujal Upadhyay]

nope :)

Thanks for bringing me back on track.

OM

Sujal Upadhyay

"To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi

He who has faith has all
He who lacks faith, lacks all
It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna


On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Sunil Bhattacharjya <
sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Some think that the Mahabharata war as fought only around 600 BCE. Should
> we fall for it?
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 28, 2014 12:16 AM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Ramakrishna had guru, but not during his first sadhana, when the Guru is
> most needed. When he had darshan of Maa Kali for first time, he did not
> have any Guru, later to establish other paths, he had accepted Guru as per
> divine instructions.
>
> I understand what you say and I know that you are not contradicting me.
> What I am saying is that generally mind cannot remain stuck into the source
> (heart) for long time. Even one mahavakya is enough - is theoretically
> true, but I do not think that any human is capable of attain moksha just by
> holding to a single thought - I am Brahman. For avatars, anything is
> possible :) Laymen do not live on intuitions. We do have thoughts.
>
> With OM, it is different. You have an adhara of mantra. So thoughts,
> mantra, thoughts mantra, silence ... -- this continues. It is comparatively
> easy. Neti-Neti is difficult than meditating on OM and holding to just one
> mahavakya is still more difficult. Infact, I am not aware of any saint who
> got realized just by holding to one mahavakya. In neti-neti, you are free
> to use as many words as you like or do Self enquiry.
>
> Brother, in meditation, one is generally trying to steady mind and uproot
> desires of this life. What about up-rooting desires of past lives? Only
> when the vessel has no holes i.e. when nothing of day-2-day life enters
> your mind i.e. influences you, then desires of past life begin to uproot.
> In this state, mind remains stuck in source and is overpowered by source,
> something very deep, strong (Brahman). Then progress is fast as desires are
> uprooted very fast. Such a person is rare and achieves success in short
> period of time.
>
> Once it is realized in meditation that this world is nothing but projection
> of mind and that desires do not have a specific shape, but are unstable
> force (energy, shakti), then you enter into thoughtless state, full of
> bliss. I do not mean no thoughts, but before thoughts (and desires) take
> shape and create a scene or an image, it is uprooted by someone else
> (Paramantman) and you as an individual have not hand in this entire
> process. It all happens by grace of God. Hence no saint will claim his
> credit in success. He will not say, I will remove all obstacles in your
> life, surrender to me and you will be free, etc. He will keep directing you
> to God.
>
> I am finding it difficult to express. I was never good in expressing myself
> :)
>
> OM
>
> Sujal Upadhyay
>
> "To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
> nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi
>
> He who has faith has all
> He who lacks faith, lacks all
> It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
> FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Nithin Sridhar <sridhar.nithin at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Ramakrishna did have Guru. In fact 2 Guru's. One Totapuri who initiated
> him
> > in Vedanta and two Bhairavi Brahmani who Initiated into Tantric 64
> > sadhanas.
> >
> > That was not my point. I said before that, "For an Highly Advanced soul",
> > even a single Mahavakya is enough. I.e. for simple folks like us, even
> > hundreds of scriptures may not be enough if not accompanied by sadhana!
> >
> > I am not contradicting what you said, in fact supporting your contention!
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Nithin bhai, Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa did his sadhana and had darshan
> > of
> > > Maa Kali without any external guru and so did Sri Ramana Maharshi
> > realized
> > > his true nature without any external Guru. They both are exceptions and
> > not
> > > rule and both are considered as an avatar. There was no disciple, no
> > formal
> > > initiation, no external guidance, no vaidhi vidhi, just pure intense
> > love,
> > > devotion and total surrender.
> > >
> > > Generally, for human being, just realizing one form of God is enough,
> but
> > > Sri Ramakrishna had a mission to complete, hence he even crossed
> borders
> > of
> > > religion, just to prove by practice and experience that all forms of
> God
> > > and all paths are true and valid. an exception is Buddhist way. Though
> he
> > > said that there is no difference between (original) teachings of Lord
> > > Buddha and Advaita.
> > >
> > > SRKP cannot be caged in any sampradAya. SRKP would go into samadhi even
> > by
> > > listening to any name of God and at times he could even enter into
> > samadhi
> > > by listening into words which are not said in civil tone. SRKP could
> see
> > > krishna in an English-boy who was standing and leaning on a tree with
> > legs
> > > crossed and could see Maa Kali even in prostitute. Even if we d not
> > > consider him as an avatar, still he and Sri Ramana Maharshi are
> > exceptions.
> > >
> > > Having a glimpse of samadhi and staying 24 x 7 (sahaj) is different.
> > >
> > > Hari OM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > OM
> > >
> > > Sujal Upadhyay
> > >
> > > "To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
> > > nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi
> > >
> > > He who has faith has all
> > > He who lacks faith, lacks all
> > > It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
> > > FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ramakrishna Paramahamsa went into Nirvikalpa Samadhi within 3 days!
> He
> > > did
> > > > not need to study Upanishads etc!
> > > >
> > > > praNAms
> > > > Hare Krishna
> > > >
> > > > I think it is shankara bhagavatpAda who said 4 chapters in mAndUkya
> is
> > > the
> > > > essence of sarva upanishat-s.  Sri Subbu prabhuji any help??
> > > >
> > > > Hari Hari Hari bol!!!
> > > > bhaskar
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