[Advaita-l] 'world' is not the mental creation of tiny soul !!

[balagopal ramakrishnan]

Verse 230 of Vivekachudamani - 'sadbrahmakaryam...prajalpah ' - is an interesting one. When 'brahman' is the material and efficient cause, are we not strengthening duality when we emphasise on the 'tinyness' of 'jiva' etc.? By doing so are we getting out of 'ignorance' or are we getting deeper into it? Anyways Bhaskarji is still waiting for some pertinent quotes from the 'prasthanatrayi' and Shanakara Bhashyams showing that the world is  the creation of the 'tiny jiva'. Hope members who are thorough in the scriptures will help.

Regards

Balagopal



On Tuesday, 25 March 2014 12:32 PM, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:
 
<< .As per your first statement above, it has been debated extensively on
this list re mūlāvidyā and Sri Swamiji's views and allthe relevant postings
can be found in the archives, so I see no need to further elaborate
.Regards >>

I wrote it only as an introduction to my second para. It was not intended
by me that this itself is open for discussion. Regret the inadvertant
misunderstanding it has led to.

Regards


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:01 PM, subhanu <subhanu at hotmail.com> wrote:

> HS Chandramouli wrote:
>
> "The whole point arises because Sri SSS is critical
>
> of mulavidya approach and advances the adhyasa
> approach"
>
>
>
> and
>
> "How then can one go about deliberating on this subject unless oneknows
> whose avidya is to be eliminated ? Surely one cannot do so byconsidering
> adhyasa and knowledge as some external elements unconnected with the
> inquirer."
>
>
>
> Namaste, nobody is saying that adhyāsa is some
> external element unconnected with the inquirer. This is not Sri Swamiji's
> position
> and I can see that from your paragraph above,you have not correctly
> grasped Sri Swamiji's views. Rather than do it on this list I would be
> happy to clarify
> further with you offline.
>
> I also agree with Sri Sadananda that the question is over-emphasised. I
> was simply responding to questions asked. Sri Sadananda has summarised well
> the view of the tradition,( for which I had also given the references from
> Shankara and Suresvara) that "ignorance belongs to the one who does not
> know that he is Brahman..". This has nothing to do with whether one
> believes in mūlāvidyā or not. I have also given the reference from
> Suresvara that even the notion that avidyā rests in Brahman is from the
> standpoint of ignorance only, so these statements can be taken independent
> of what one believes or doesn't believe are Sri Swamiji's views.As per your
> first statement above, it has been debated extensively on this list re
> mūlāvidyā and Sri Swamiji's views and allthe relevant postings can be found
> in the archives, so I see no need to further elaborate .Regards
>
> Subhanu
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