[Advaita-l] Brief comparison of three great Acharyas....

[Srivathsa Rao]

I even heard that madhvacharya says ,we have to worship god (Vishnu),only
though him (Madhvacharya) as mediator,otherwise...we won't get  result of
worship just like "NEERALLI MADIDHA HOMA". He in his philosophy tries to
make people afraid of god,and tell them if you follow my path you will get
salvation other wise if you go for other's philosophy...you will go to
andha tamas (Eternal hell).....

He even says ONLY  his bhashya of prastana traya is PERFECT.All other
acharya's  bhashyas of prastana traya are tamasa (Wrong).

This type of mean mentality we can only seen in Christians and
Muslims,which are non-indian religion.Except in madhva philosophy,we can't
see such mean mentality in any other indian philosophy/philosopher.

This is the uniqueness of madhvacharya or uniqueness of madhva sidhanta.

On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 12:25 AM, Srivathsa Rao <vathsa108 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Now tell me who is real jagath guru....who  really saved sanathana vaidika
> matha?
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:39 PM, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sri Rao,
>>
>> Pl. do not post such material on the list.  It might attract censure from
>> the moderators.
>>
>> subbu
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Srivathsa Rao via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Sir,
>>>
>>> Here what ever points I have mentioned are all facts,
>>> Even today madhvas and vishistadvaithi's won't respect other gods much
>>> especially shiva,they treat other gods as dummy gods...they treat vishnu
>>> as
>>> the only superior god.These are all because of their guru madhva and
>>> ramanuja's mean meantality....
>>>
>>> I got these informations  from a book "Jagath guru Adi shankara"...by
>>> kota
>>> vasudeva karantha.
>>> In this book he briefly compares all three acharyas...the main points in
>>> that book are mentioned by me in this email....
>>>
>>> Please tell your valuable comment...
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Srivathsa Rao <vathsa108 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Sir,
>>> >
>>> > Here I compare three Great Acharyas of Sanathana Hindu dharma ...
>>> >
>>> > Adi Shankarachaya :
>>> >
>>> > 1) His vision is full India :
>>> > He got followers from all four corners of india that can be easily seen
>>> > from his four amnaya peetham at four corners of india. He defeated in
>>> > debate,not only asthikas in vada,but also nasthikas like jains and
>>> > bhudhists.The most difficult thing, very cruial kapalikas also
>>> accepted his
>>> > vada.So,he can be called as Jagath guru.
>>> >
>>> > 2) He never said advaita accepted people are superior  to others.He
>>> never
>>> > said ,
>>> > only advaita leads to salvation or if you follow other path ,it take
>>> you
>>> > to eternal hell.
>>> > He just said we are sampradaya vadis.
>>> >
>>> > 3)He never blamed other philosophy gurus or its followers.Even though
>>> he
>>> > objected bhudhist view ,he never blamed bhudha.Even very nasthika
>>> charvaka
>>> > was also not blamed by him,only his view point is objected by
>>> shankara.That
>>> > is followed even by his followers.Because of this nature of shankara,
>>> no
>>> > advaithi blame bhudha or charvaka.they just object their philosophy.
>>> >
>>> > 4) Shankara never objected his guru govidha bagavath pada vada.He just
>>> > followed his guru,which is requirement of a vedanthi.
>>> >
>>> > 5) He took his mother's permission to become a sanyasi.He became
>>> sanyasi
>>> > because it is the symbol of sacrifice.And even he wanted to strengthen
>>> > sanathna dharma,so he came sanyasi.
>>> >
>>> > 6)his most of  followers were noble brahmins.
>>> >
>>> > 7) he never said he is avathar of some one or he never said I am
>>> superior
>>> > to others .But his followers say him to be avathar of shiva.
>>> >
>>> > 8) He said to treat all gods are equal,sever said some god is superior
>>> to
>>> > other god.or pray some god and neglect some other god.
>>> >
>>> > this can be easily seen from his panchaitana pooja padhathi.
>>> >
>>> > 9) Without shankaracharya sanathana vaidika dharma would have vanished
>>> > from indian,by this time.Because of his effort sanathana dharma is
>>> still
>>> > there is india.
>>> > So,all brahmins of all sects should respect him.He brought unity among
>>> > brahmins by bringing them under single sidhanta.
>>> >
>>> > 10) He united the brahmins.
>>> >
>>> > Ramanujaacharya :
>>> >
>>> > 1) His view is mainly tamilnadu and little karnataka.Even in tamil nadu
>>> > only few follow his philosophy .So,he cannot be called as jagath guru.
>>> >
>>> > 2)Even he never said his philosophy is superior to other philosophy or
>>> > only following his philosophy will lead to salvation.
>>> >
>>> > 3) He called shankara as prachanna bhudha,indirectly blaming
>>> shankara,the
>>> > preacher of advaitha philosophy.this is even followed by his
>>> followers.That
>>> > is why his followers don't respect shankara much.It is because of this
>>> > ramanuja's nature his followers won't respect shankara.
>>> >
>>> > 4) He went against this guru yadava preksha,and even thought he will
>>> kill
>>> > him.
>>> > He even took sanyasa from no one which is against vedas which says one
>>> has
>>> > to take sanyasa from a guru.But ramanuja says he took sanyasa,but no
>>> one
>>> > guru  gave him sanyasa.
>>> >
>>> > 5) he din't even asked his wife's permission to become sanyasi,and
>>> became
>>> > a sanyasi.He became sanyasi just to show it as a fashion .Otherwise
>>> how can
>>> > he says himself as sanysi and still no guru to him to give sanyasa.
>>> >
>>> > 6) Most of his followers were vaishyas or baniyas and not brahmins.He
>>> also
>>> > spent lot of his life time with non-brahmins.
>>> >
>>> > 7) I think he said he is avathar of adi shesha. or avathar of
>>> lakshmana.
>>> >
>>> > 8) He said worshiping vishnu is enough.No need to worship other gods.
>>> >
>>> > 9) Even though ,Because of shankara ,sanathana dharma is still there in
>>> > india.He never thanked shankara for his great job,he just blamed
>>> shankara
>>> > as prachanna bhudha.
>>> >
>>> > 10)Because of Ramanuja there is no unity among brahmins in tamil
>>> > nadu.Iyengars and Iyers always fight among each others.
>>> >
>>> > 11) He divided the brahmins.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Madhvacharya :
>>> >
>>> > 1) His view is mainly karnataka, even in karnataka only few sects of
>>> > brahmins follow his philosophy.So,he cannot be called as jagath guru.
>>> >
>>> > 2) He said his philosophy is superior to other philosophy.He also said
>>> > that only following his philosophy will lead to salvation.Following
>>> other
>>> > sects will lead to eternal hell.He also called the one who preach other
>>> > philosophy is a devil.
>>> >
>>> > 3) He called other philosophers as devil.He directly called
>>> shankaracharya
>>> > as manimantha daithya in his book mahabharatha thatparya nirnaya .He
>>> says
>>> > with jealous of bhima sena ( madhva's previous birth) ,manimantha
>>> > (shankaracharya ) became shankaracharya  and thought wrong philosophy
>>> to
>>> > this world.Such a mean mentality madhva had.
>>> > Because of this nature of madhva ,even to day madhva's never respect
>>> > shankaracharya, even today  madhvas treat shankara as manimantha
>>> > daithya.This  madhva's ideology is just followed by his followers.
>>> >
>>> > 4) He went against his guru achutha preksha,even as a student. He never
>>> > listened to his guru,while he was teaching.Which is not a required
>>> behavior
>>> > of a vedanthi.
>>> >
>>> > 5) Even though his father objected him from becoming sanyasi,rejecting
>>> his
>>> > father's words ,he became sanyasi.He became sanyasi just because If he
>>> > become sanyasi then only people will follow him.Other why He wanted to
>>> take
>>> > sanyasa from advaitha sanyasi, as all advaithis are devils?......why
>>> > because he says he knows every thing from birth so,that he came to this
>>> > world to preach dvaita....
>>> >
>>> > 6) His followers are mostly brahmins.
>>> >
>>> > 7) He said he is avathar of vayu deva or he is avathar of hanumantha.He
>>> > said he is superior to all jeevas. He even said that ,He is the most
>>> > knowledgeable among all jeevas that no other jeevas have his equal or
>>> > higher jgnana (knowledge) or shankthi (power).
>>> >
>>> > 8) He said to not to treat all gods are equal.If we treat all god are
>>> > equal (Shiva and vishnus are equal)...we go to eternal hell.He said to
>>> > treat vishnu as superior to all other gods.
>>> > He said to worship all other gods just as  dammi gods ,just a
>>> > representative of vishnu.
>>> >
>>> > 9) Even though because of adi shankarachaya sanathana dharma is still
>>> > there in india,He never thanked shankara for this work.But he blammed
>>> > shankaracharya in bad words.
>>> >
>>> > 10) Beacause of madhva,there is no unity among brahmins in karnataka.
>>> > Madhvas and advaithis even fight today for their philosophy or for
>>> their
>>> > culture   and there is no unity among brahmins in karnataka .
>>> >
>>> > 11) He divied brahmins.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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