[Advaita-l] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Brahman and Avidya - mutually exclusive?

[Venkatraghavan S]

Sri Ravi Kiran,
Mostly agree with you. On 6, I would say from Brahman's point of view there
is no avidya. From avidya's point of view it is located in Brahman, and
partially veils Brahman.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan
 On 23 Jun 2015 19:38, "Ravi Kiran via Advaita-l" <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Sri Aurobind,
> > Both Atma gyAna and Atma avidyA are in the vyAvahArika plane only.
> >
> > When talk of Atma avidyA removal is made, it is to be understood to mean
> to
> > remove the notion that Atma avidyA has any fundamental existence. SAdhana
> > is needed to realise that SAdhana is not needed.
> >
>
> one can understand that ..
>
> 1. avidya or ajnAna and jnAna is for the jIva (antahakarana)  alone
> 2. Since the jIva is in folded state in deep sleep, there is absolutely no
> knowing of anything by jIva..
> 3. The importance of jnAna for a jIva is in jagrat, to remove avidya which
> is the cause for saMsAra
> 4. Brahman alone lends the existence to avidya, whose effects are
> experienced by jIva in waking/dream,
> as avidya has no existence of its own
> 5. Brahman and avidya can co-exist, as can be validated in jagrat itself (
> though Brahman being the svayamprakAsaka
> nitya shuddha buddha mukta svarupa vastu, a jIva is not knowing It because
> of avidya )
> 6. avidya has no veiling or covering effect on Brahman, as its effects are
> on the upAdhis alone
>
> Thanks
>
>
> > From a paramArthika point of view, there is nothing to remove, nothing to
> > be realised, no bandha, no mumukshu, no gyAni. Brahman is ever attained,
> > hastAmalaka-vat.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Venkatraghavan
> >
> >
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