[Advaita-l] Why can't it be done by some learned scholars?

[Srivathsa Rao]

Advaita is about brahman (Sat-chit-ananda) ,which is nirvikaara....So,
advaita will never be rotten ,but your way of thinking and these new sects
may get rotten one day.....let us wait for new shankaracharya....

I am not saying knowledge of brahman is related to bhakthi and virakthi or
brahma jgnana is needed to bhakthi or virakthi....what I am saying is one
may be great bhaktha and viraktha that doesnot mean that he is brahma
jgnani.......
So,one cannot say a sect of vaidhika philosophy is correct as there are
many bhakthas and virakthas are there in that vaidika philosophy....

thats all...

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Srivathsa Rao <vathsa108 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sir,
>     What I am saying is one who has virakthi and bhakthi does't mean that
> he has right knowldge of brahman (Sat-chit-Ananda)
> So,there may be many virathas and bhkthas in other sects that doesnot mean
> that that sects are correct
>
> there are many brahmins when they see other sect mathas ,other sect men or
> other sect gets in justice they feel happy because of jealous about other
> sects.....these type of problem will not be there and there will be unity
> among brahmins if they come under single sidhanta
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:50 PM, श्रीमल्ललितालालितः <
> lalitaalaalitah at lalitaalaalitah.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> *श्रीमल्ललितालालितः*www.lalitaalaalitah.com
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Srivathsa Rao <vathsa108 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sir ,
>>>
>>> You have said that there are noble souls in other sects not only in
>>> advaita...as we can see many virakhtas ,bakthas in other sects..
>>>
>>> One is viraktha or a great bhaktha doesn't mean that his knowledge is
>>> correct
>>>
>>
>> ​Correct knowledge of what ? Veda-s?
>> Sorry, it is not needed for virakti and bhakti.
>> virakti is ​generated from knowing bad qualities of things and bhakti is
>> generated by knowing good qualities of Ishvara. Where does veda or AtmA
>> comes?
>>
>> if so,there are many jaina ,boudha virakthas what you say for them...they
>>> are avaidika matha .. ..will you say they are correct and vedas are wrong?
>>>
>>
>> ​Why are you making virakti is equal to knowledge of veda ?
>> There is no need of such knowledge for virakti, bhakti.
>> ​
>>
>>
>>>
>>> You can't say so because this vedas or athma jgnana
>>> ​ ​
>>> is beyond them as vedas  are apourusheya....which is beyond human
>>> thinking capacity....
>>>
>>
>> ​Here I stop reading.
>> I think you need some serious help. You are living in some other world
>> where words don't reach.
>> ​
>>
>>
>>>
>>> So,we have learn vidhya  from a lineage of guru parampara,not from so
>>> intellectual brilliant ,there was no bhudhism before bhudha or jaininsm
>>> before mahaveera ,maadhva before madhva and vishistadvaita before
>>> ramanuja....
>>>
>>> And even bhudha till his young din't even knew what is death....so,there
>>> was no clue to him of what is sathama dharma asdone by  his father....
>>>
>>> But there was advaita before shankaracharya...
>>>
>>> which makes us to think off...
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Srivathsa Rao <vathsa108 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sir,
>>>>
>>>>  I am not telling to kill chatur varnashrama,to tell in better worlds,I
>>>> want to unite brahmins....In brahmins there are three sects...smarthas
>>>> ,madhvas and sri vaishnavas...I want to bring all of them under single
>>>> platform......
>>>>
>>>> Brahmins are the backbone of sanathana dharma ,if we unite them the
>>>> unity among hindus will automatically comes....
>>>>
>>>> At present there is no unity among brahmins ,to bring unity among
>>>> brahmins there is need to bring them under single platform..
>>>> As unity among different sects will be always not as good as unity
>>>> among single sect as homogeneous unity will always better than
>>>> heterogeneous unity...
>>>>
>>>> Now when there is any injustice to brahmins there comes heterogeneous
>>>> unity ,but after a while this unity will die soon , as it is
>>>> heterogeneous...but homogeneous  unity is not like that it lasts till end...
>>>>
>>>> Also some brahmins think if there is injustice to other sect or other
>>>> sect brahmin ,it is good let it happen...this type of jealous will die
>>>> ...if there is single dharma among brahmins
>>>>
>>>> You have asked by killing dvaita and vishistadvaita weather we are not
>>>> killing creativity of hindu religion...for that my answer is..this newly
>>>> formed religions are not there in shankaracharya's time,,these are the
>>>> product of the new acharya's thinking way and these religion looks so
>>>> childish....
>>>>
>>>> This athma's concept is not up to some one's thinking capacity that is
>>>> why vedas are considered as apourusheya...that is why vedas and its hidden
>>>> meanings has to be learnt from good lineage of guru paramapara.....
>>>>
>>>> This athman's concept is beyond this bhudhi as said by upanishads only
>>>> ...so ,we have to learn it from a proper guruparampara only not from some
>>>> intellectual brilliant...which will be mostly wrong..as we can easily see
>>>> in dvaita and vishistadvaita
>>>>
>>>> Shakara's advaita has a lineage from goudapadacharya who was a
>>>> advaithi,but dvaita was not there before madhva,his teacher achutha preksha
>>>> was aadvaithi...similarly ramauja's guru was aadvaithi......
>>>>
>>>> Always old is gold.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:47 AM, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
>>>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 11:44 PM, Santosh Rao via Advaita-l <
>>>>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > NamaskR,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > What were these 72 sects? it is my understanding that sankaracharyas
>>>>> > philosophical opponents were mainly buddhists, jains, and mimamsikas
>>>>> not
>>>>> > muslims. Is this incorrect?
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> In this URL containing the Anandagiriya Shankara vijaya, on pdf p.12
>>>>> onwards you can see a list of schools that are refuted. One can count
>>>>> at
>>>>> the most 50 there.
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > What is the answer to the assertion that advaita vedanta is a
>>>>> philosophical
>>>>> > "compromise" with buddhism? Does this claim hold water?
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> You can read a six-part series of articles on the topic: Buddhism,
>>>>> Advaita
>>>>> and Dvaita published in this forum.  For the first part here is the
>>>>> URL:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/2011-May/027302.html
>>>>>
>>>>> You can locate the other parts too by suitably searching.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>> subrahmanian.v
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > This is just myth.
>>>>> > 'Removed 72 sects'?? From where??
>>>>> > All minds?? Even most loyal of those sects?? Even from future minds??
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I don't think that just because there is a philosophy known as
>>>>> Vedanta,
>>>>> > people will not convert. If it were true no one would have converted
>>>>> at any
>>>>> > time.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It's man who decides what he wants to follow, right or wrong. Who
>>>>> gives
>>>>> > even a single thought to validity of philosophy and arguments? Only
>>>>> a few.
>>>>> > So, only they don't convert because there is a philosophy and they
>>>>> can
>>>>> > understand that. It's not applicable to masses.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Debates are always going on among sects mentioned by you. But, it is
>>>>> not to
>>>>> > convert essentially.
>>>>> > The argument which you think correct is flawed in other's view. So,
>>>>> it
>>>>> > didn't prove your philosophy correct to him. So, he doesn't leave
>>>>> his sect.
>>>>> > Another thing, most debates are to show that they have studied their
>>>>> > respective works and retain that. Some debates are to win prizes.
>>>>> So, the
>>>>> > result you are expecting can't come from those debates.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Do you think that mAdhva-s and shrI-vaiShNava-s are avaidika in every
>>>>> > sense?
>>>>> > No, it is not like that. They follow veda-s. They are already in
>>>>> home. And,
>>>>> > what veda-s want to say is debatable.
>>>>> > So, stop being biased and forcing your thoughts on others.
>>>>> > On Mar 29, 2015 7:03 PM, "Srivathsa Rao via Advaita-l" <
>>>>> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Before 1200 years there came shankaracharya  who removed 72 sects
>>>>> in
>>>>> > > ancient sathana dharma and brought them under a single platform of
>>>>> > advaita
>>>>> > > vedanta,that is why ancient sanathana dharma is still present in
>>>>> india
>>>>> > > otherwise we would have been muslim by now.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > The present day science even support advaita vedanta.Now my point
>>>>> is why
>>>>> > > can't some learned scholars can bring back madhvas and
>>>>> srivishnavas and
>>>>> > > newly formed mathas under advaita vedanta by proper debate under
>>>>> > upanishad.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > This will even support Rss 's Ghar Vapsi Right?
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