[Advaita-l] Please answer to this

[V Subrahmanian]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Ryan Armstrong via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> namaskara
> I admit up front that I do not have the knowledge to answer this...but I am
> confused by this question.
> By vedavyasa, does the madhva pandith mean vyasa, father of sri shuka and
> also author of mahAbharata, srimad bhagavata etc?
> If so, it must be noted that he was a contemporary of sri krsna and arjuna
> (actually he was arjuna's biological grandfather.)
> But Adi shankara lived during the 8th/9th century AD according to the
> modern calendar.
>
>
> Whilst I am aware that the live span of the great seers far exceeds the
> ordinary man, I was not aware that vedavyasa was known to be alive at the
> time of Adi shankara.
> That would have been about 400 years after the great battle of kurukshetra.
> Is there another saint by the same name that I am confusing him with?
>

Dear Sri Ryan,

In Hnduism there is the concept of 'chiranjīvi' = those who do not die for
a very long time.  In that list Vyasa is included:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiranjivi

The extant Puranas <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purana>, the Ramayana
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramayana>, and the Mahabharata
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabharata> describe seven long lived
personalities in the Hindu pantheon
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_pantheon>. Each represents a different
attribute of man, which as long as they live, will exist amongst humanity.
[2] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiranjivi#cite_note-Paryatanam-2>
"Ashwatthama Balir Vyaso Hanumanash cha Vibhishana Krupacharya cha
Parashuramam Saptaita Chiranjeevanam" - 'Ashwathama, King Mahabali, Vyasa,
Hanuman, Vibhishana, Kripacharya and Parashurama are the seven
death-defying or imperishable personalities '.

They can make themselves visible only to those whom they choose to.  They
can travel to any location with ease.  In this manner the Shankara Vijaya
episode says that Vyasa visited Shankara.  You may read the complete
episode elsewhere.

regards
subrahmanian.v

>
> Yours in Truth
> Ryan
>
> On 15 October 2015 at 18:14, Harsha Bhat via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > And one more point I forgot to mention,
> >
> >
> >                          That  madhva pandith also said that even
> > shankaracharya lost in debate with vedavyasa,he also adds that ,
> > even in some shankara vijaya says that adi shankara lost in debate with
> > vedavyasa.
> >
> >
> > So,please tell me whether in any shankara vijaya there is a topic of
> > shankaracharya losing debate with vedavyasa?
> >
> > Or it is also one among maadhva's  crooked up stories?
> >
> >  Any knowledgeable person,please answer....
> >
> >
> > regards,
> > Harsha Bhat
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Srirudra <srirudra at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear
> > > Whether should replace weather.This type of mistaken spellings are
> > > provided by the iPad .So one should be careful while forwarding the
> > > mail.R.Krishnamoorthy.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > > On 15-Oct-2015, at 7:46 PM, Harsha Bhat via Advaita-l <
> > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Namaskara,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1)      Madhvas are very famous for loose talk and they always down
> > grade
> > > > other philosophy and its acharyas.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > When talking about this with a famous madhva pandith,he said not only
> > we
> > > > madhvas ,advaithis also down grade madhvas.
> > > >
> > > > He said vidhyaranya called madhvachrya as madhu named devil. Which
> > comes
> > > in
> > > > soura purana.
> > > >
> > > > Weather it is true?
> > > >
> > > > Weather vidhyaranya called madhva as madhu named devil?
> > > > If so,where ? in which book?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please reply ,so that  I can answer him...
> > > >
> > > >   2) And also,he said vidhyaranya got defeated by akshobhya theertha
> in
> > > > vakhyartha of "tat tvam asi"...
> > > >
> > > > In respect of that, vidhyaranya installed a vijaya sthamba in
> > mulibagilu
> > > > for respecting akshobhya theertha...
> > > >
> > > > Weather it is true that  vidhyaranaya got defeated by akshobhya
> > theertha
> > > > for  vakhyartha of tat tvam asi?
> > > >
> > > > Or it is just dvaithi's crooked up story for down grading other
> > > philosophy
> > > > acharyas?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > Harsha Bhat
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