[Advaita-l] Who is this Angustha Parimana Purusha?
Aurobind Padiyath
aurobind.padiyath at gmail.com
Fri Apr 1 21:25:16 CDT 2016
Pranams,
Shashwataji,
Only Vidya can remove Avidya. No other means can. While Yoga, Dhyana,
Archana, Etc are actions that are having a prerequisite the clear
establishment of the doer, the Avidya nAsha is an internal search with the
pramaNa, shastra or guruvakhya, which enlightens the self efflgent
Atmatatwa within.
Shastrasya guruvakhyasya sathyabudhdyAvadharanam.
You might have heard the Kabir doha of kasturi ka mrgu.
So shun all other search. Search within. It's in you (if you consider you
are the body) or rather That is you (That Thou Art). This assurance of the
shastravakhya is the proof that, many have proven it right for it to have
outlived even after millions of years.
Study the Gita, Upanishads and Brahma SUtra in whatever language is your
choice. To imbibe the meaning is more important than knowing the technical
terms. That will follow once you grasp the meaning.
Hari Om!
Aurobind
On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 07:35 Shashwata Shastri, <shashwata.unimas at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Pujyapad
> Aurobindji
>
> How to annihilate avidya without yoga?
>
> Shashwata Chowdhury
>
> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 4:00 AM, Aurobind Padiyath <
> aurobind.padiyath at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Pranams,
>> Sri Shashwataji,
>> This query of your's is to a wrong group. While there are many ways in
>> which Adhyatmic practises that are carried out, in Advaitic tradition only
>> the pursuit of removing Ajnana is considered the only solution to
>> Kaivalyam. Na Anya pantha vidhyate ayanaya.
>> Advaita considers all other means within the realm of Maya. Hence any
>> pursuit of those will only deepen your Avidya.
>> My recommendation will be not to get carried away by other practices.
>> However it's one's wish and choice what is best for him and no one can stop
>> or question.
>> Rest I leave it to you.
>> Hari Om!
>> Aurobind
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 23:09 Shashwata Shastri, <shashwata.unimas at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sir,
>>>
>>> What are the rules of sculpting a clay based Shiva Linga? I heard that,
>>> in the Anahuta Chakra a shiva linga resides. On the top of that lingam
>>> there is a jewel. In that jewel the reflected consciousness of jiva is
>>> always shining. The measurement of that lingam is as the exact same size of
>>> a human thumb.
>>>
>>> Can anybody give me a yogic explanation regarding the matter.
>>>
>>> Pujyapad Sujal ji has stated some important facts but I guess an
>>> elaborate elucidation of the Anahuta Chakra is needed to show some light on
>>> this particular topic.
>>>
>>> Sujal ji I thought there was only nine chakras and the rests were
>>> upachakras. There are some secret chakras which can only be revealed by a
>>> Guru.
>>>
>>> Shashwata Chowdhury
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Aurobind Padiyath <
>>> aurobind.padiyath at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pranams,
>>>> Have you heard the story of Ekalavya in the Mahabharath?
>>>> Everyone knows the importance of the thumb. No action will become
>>>> perfect especially in manual jobs without the thumb. Since the thumb
>>>> supports all human endeavours, you can see the role of it in all actions.
>>>> So the importance is highlighted with the most important finger in
>>>> human body.
>>>> Next time onwards whenever you use your thumb remember to think about
>>>> it as Brahman (in that form) helping in all your actions.
>>>> (Even providing space while using a keyboard.)
>>>> I'm sure that the usage was only symbolic and not what I've mentored as
>>>> my theory. The same usage one can find in other meditation methods in other
>>>> systems too.
>>>> Hari Om!
>>>> Aurobind
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 19:00 Shashwata Shastri via Advaita-l, <
>>>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>> First part of my question does not concern about the finite Brahman
>>>>> (which
>>>>> is imagined as a Thumb). The goal of the question was to retrieve the
>>>>> mystery- "Why thumb in the first place? Why not index, Pinky fingers?
>>>>> Why
>>>>> not defining the size by relating the Brahman with other objects? What
>>>>> is
>>>>> mystery behind stating thumb?!" The thumb can not be a mere example or
>>>>> form
>>>>> which was imagined upon Brahman! There must be a definite reason to
>>>>> imagine
>>>>> a thumb I simply want to know about that reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Shashwata Chowdhury
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Sujal Upadhyay via Advaita-l <
>>>>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Looks like this mail was not send to Advaita-L. Hence copy pasting
>>>>> (with
>>>>> > corrections)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > PraNAms Sri Bhaskara Prabhu ji,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I was asking for aNo raNeeyaN mantra which you said is in
>>>>> taittereeya
>>>>> > AraNyaka.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > **Yes, taitereeya mahAnArAyaNa says it clearly : aNoraNeeyAn mahatO
>>>>> > maheeyAn AtmA guhAyAM nihitOsya jaNtOH..*
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I just wanted to study the verse for Self Study. I have a copy of
>>>>> > mahAnArAyaNa Up. (I dont have whole of taitereeya Aranyaka). If it's
>>>>> in
>>>>> > mahAnArAyaNa Up. , I could look into it if I get reference. Hence I
>>>>> asked
>>>>> > for verse no.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Never Mind. Not that important.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Little off topic - These days just focusing on neti-neti and
>>>>> > anvaya-vyatireka as mentioned in chatusloki bhAgavat BP 2.9.30-36
>>>>> >
>>>>> > *एतावद् एव जिज्ञास्यं तत्त्वजिज्ञासुनात्मनः ।*
>>>>> > *अन्वयव्यतिरेकाभ्यां यत् स्यात् सर्वत्र सर्वदा ।। **२**.**९**.**३५
>>>>> ।।*
>>>>> >
>>>>> > परमात्माके तत्वको जाननेकी इच्छावले [इच्छा रखनेवाले] मनुष्यको
>>>>> विधिरूपसे
>>>>> > अर्थात् 'परमात्मा ऐसे है', 'परमात्मा ऐसे है', - वह भावसे तथा
>>>>> निषेधभावसे
>>>>> > अर्थात् 'परमात्मा वैसे नही है', 'परमात्मा ऐसे नही है', 'परमात्मा ऐसे
>>>>> नही
>>>>> > है'
>>>>> > [अर्थात् नेति-नेति पद्धतिसे, सिद्धान्तसे] - ऐसे भावसे इतना ही जानना
>>>>> जरूरी
>>>>> > है की (परमात्मा हीं) सर्वदेश और सर्वकालमें विद्यमान हैं - २.९.३५
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > My understanding is:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > *anyava* means the cause of everything or staying as a cause i.e.
>>>>> > patamAtman. paramAtman stays in creation as cause of everything.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > *vyatireka* is process of neti-neti and last tatva that is left after
>>>>> > neti-neti. After negating that which exists or is the only thing
>>>>> left is
>>>>> > paramAtman.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > anyava-vyatireka is adhyAropa-apavAda.Seems to be that everything is
>>>>> > connected with anyava-vyatireka :)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hari OM
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sujal
>>>>> >
>>>>> > OM
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sujal Upadhyay
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
>>>>> > nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi
>>>>> >
>>>>> > He who has faith has all
>>>>> > He who lacks faith, lacks all
>>>>> > It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
>>>>> > FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > PraNAms Sri Bhaskara Prabhu ji,
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I was asking for aNo raNeeyaN mantra which you said is in
>>>>> taittereeya
>>>>> > > AraNyaka. You made a typo in earlier mail.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > **Yes, taitereeya mahAnArAyaNa says it clearly : aNoraNeeyAn mahatO
>>>>> > > maheeyAn AtmA guhAyAM nihitOsya jaNtOH..*
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I just wanted to study the verse for Self Study. I have a copy of
>>>>> > > mahAnArAyaNa Up. so I could look into it if I get reference. Hence
>>>>> I
>>>>> > asked
>>>>> > > for verse no
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Never Mind. Not that important.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Little off topic - These days just focusing on neti-neti and
>>>>> > > anvaya-vyatireka as mentioned in chatusloki bhAgavat BP 2.9.30-36
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > *एतावद् एव जिज्ञास्यं तत्त्वजिज्ञासुनात्मनः ।*
>>>>> > > *अन्वयव्यतिरेकाभ्यां यत् स्यात् सर्वत्र सर्वदा ।। **२**.**९**.**३५
>>>>> ।।*
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > परमात्माके तत्वको जाननेकी इच्छावले [इच्छा रखनेवाले] मनुष्यको
>>>>> विधिरूपसे
>>>>> > > अर्थात् 'परमात्मा ऐसे है', 'परमात्मा ऐसे है', - वह भावसे तथा
>>>>> निषेधभावसे
>>>>> > > अर्थात् 'परमात्मा वैसे नही है', 'परमात्मा ऐसे नही है', 'परमात्मा
>>>>> ऐसे नही
>>>>> > > है' [अर्थात् नेति-नेति पद्धतिसे, सिद्धान्तसे] - ऐसे भावसे इतना ही
>>>>> जानना
>>>>> > > जरूरी है की (परमात्मा हीं) सर्वदेश और सर्वकालमें विद्यमान हैं -
>>>>> २.९.३५
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > My understanding is:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > *anyava* means the cause of everything or staying as a cause i.e.
>>>>> > > patamAtman. paramAtman stays in creation as cause of everything.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > *vyatireka* is process of neti-neti and last tatva that is left
>>>>> after
>>>>> > > neti-neti. After negating that which exists or is the only thing
>>>>> left is
>>>>> > > paramAtman.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > anyava-vyatireka is adhyAropa-apavAda.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Seems to be that everything is connected with anyava-vyatireka :)
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Hari OM
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Sujal
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > OM
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Sujal Upadhyay
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > "To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else
>>>>> is
>>>>> > > nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > He who has faith has all
>>>>> > > He who lacks faith, lacks all
>>>>> > > It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
>>>>> > > FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >> praNAms Sri Sujal prabhuji
>>>>> > >> Hare Krishna
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> If possible, please can you point out verses
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> > which verses you are asking prabhuji?? Not clear to me. aNo
>>>>> raNeeyaN
>>>>> > >> mantra is in taittereeya AraNyaka, sUkshmAt sUkshma taraM jneyaM
>>>>> tanme
>>>>> > >> manaH shiva saMkalpamastu is in mahAnyAsAdi mantra, and
>>>>> > >> aNurbruhatkrushahsthUlO in vishNu sahasranAma.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
>>>>> > >> bhaskar
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
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>>>>
>>>
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