[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Why only jagat is mithya and jeeva is brahman !!??

[Ramachandra Sastry]

Namaste,

Thanks Sada-ji and Venkaraghavan-ji.

For my study sake, can i know some references from scriptures which
specifically says Brahman is the adhishTanam of the jagat.
Also , i would like to know few references from Shruti or Bhasya which
specifically indicates that Jagat should be considered as Vivartopadana
karana and not Abbinimmittopadana Karana.



Regards
Ramachandra Sastry

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:56 PM, kuntimaddi sadananda <
kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:

> PraNAms - answered below.
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 4/27/16, Ramachandra Sastry <ramachandra.sastry at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Namaste,
>  I have a
>  query on Adhisthana (substratam) of Jagat being Brahman,
>  request scholars to explain please.
>  1) When we say the serpent that is
>  seen is only an illusion due to Avidya, we can determine
>  whether the Adhisthana is a rope or a crack in the ground by
>  Pratyaksha, Similarly if Brahman were an object for
>  Pratyaksa then we could determine whether or not it is the
>  Adhisthana for the illusory Jagat, however, Brahman is not a
>  matter of Pratyaksa at all and only the Jagat is seen,
>  therefore it might be not possible to say whether it's
>  Adisthana is Brahman or some think else?
>
> Ans: Yes - you are right - Hence to know that Brahman is the adhishTanam
> of the jagat - Scripture alone is pramaana. or means of knowledge, since
> Brahman by definition is imperceptible.For that Vedanta alone is pramaana-
> where creation is discussed.
>
>  2)  How can formless Brahman be
>  Adhishthana for the illusory forms, because there must be
>  resemblance between the illusion and it's Adhisthana
>  when it is not possible to imagine a snake in a shell or
>  silver in a rope, how can the forms of the Jagat be imagined
>  in the formless Brahman
>
> Ans: Brahman being infinite cannot have form. The formless Brahman can
> appear with many forms - just as formless mind projects many forms in the
> dream world that you create. Hence to know the absolute truth which cannot
> be perceived nor can be deduced by logic - one has to approach a teacher
> and study Vedanta - says the scriptures. - tat vijnaanaartham guruam eva
> abhigachchet says Mundaka Up. tat viddhi praNipaatena pariprashnena sevaya
> - says Krishna. One need to study Vedanta under a competent teacher - a
> competent teacher is one who studied vedanta under another competent
> teacher - all the way to the Lord.
>
> Hari Om!
> Sadananda
>
>  RegardsRamachandra Sastry
>
>
>  On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at
>  7:58 PM, kuntimaddi sadananda via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
>  wrote:
>
>
>  PraNAms
>
>
>
>  After posting I recognized that Shree venkatraghavanji
>  already discussed the issue - I essentially agree what he
>  has stated.
>
>
>
>  Hari Om!
>
>  Sada
>
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