[Advaita-l] Shankara authenticates Shiva as the son of Brahma

[Venkatraghavan S]

Ishvara is not a dream object. He is myself. I'm merely correcting the
misconception that one aspect of me is low and the other is high.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan

On 13 Aug 2016 1:34 p.m., "Venkatesh Murthy" <vmurthy36 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Namaste
>
> It is like arguing and worrying what colour is the horse in a dream
> you have seen. The horse may be white or black. Who cares? It is only
> a dream. Your imagination. From the Supreme Ishwara down to a tiny ant
> everything is existing in your imagination. Why fight on some
> imagination? Nothing is real except your Self. That Self is Brahman.
> The Vedantic Brahman is not Vishnu not Siva or other. It is the Self.
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 5:47 PM, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l
> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > Firstly it is arthavAda, not to be taken literally.
> >
> > Secondly, you have several similar instances in slokas composed by
> > mahAtmAs, some by Shankaracharya himself, where for the benefit of ajnani
> > devotees, he says that I am a sinner, ajnAni, please help me Lord. It
> > doesn't mean Shankaracharya is an ajnAni or a sinner, it is said on
> behalf
> > of such devotees.
> >
> > Thirdly, as I have said Rudra is an amshA. When Sri Rama was lamenting
> over
> > the loss of Sita one cannot say that the sarvajna Narayana is lamenting,
> > and for that lament to be cited as a reason to deny Narayana's
> Ishvaratvam.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Venkatraghavan
> >
> > On 13 Aug 2016 1:02 p.m., "D Gayatri" <dgayatrinov10 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Alright, you have a point. So I will explain why you can't compare birth
> >> of Rudra from Prajapati to that of Ishwara taking an incarnation. This
> is
> >> because, the baby Rudra, in the satapatha brahmana episode, cries that
> he
> >> is not free from sins. Certainly, this is not the mark of Ishwara, since
> >> Ishwara is always free from sins.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Gayatri
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> -Venkatesh
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