[Advaita-l] About Satyakama

[D.V.N.Sarma డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ]

The wife a nityagnihotri hears her husband's gotra innumerable times when
he utters his pravara after finishing
the agnihotra. A wife not knowing the gotra of her husband is rather
difficult to believe.

regards,
Sarma.

2016-06-28 12:10 GMT+05:30 V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>:

> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Venkatesh Murthy (वेङ्कटेशः
> >
> > The important question is Jabala was following the ancient custom or
> > the marriage system of Eka Pati Vrata? If she was following Eka Pati
> > Vrata it will be very strange because she is not remembering even her
> > husband. If she had only one husband she could have told 'I do not
> > know your Gotra but you are son of Rishi X'.But she is not saying
>
> that to Satyakama. We can see also there is not a huge passage of time
> > because Satyakama is still a boy. She cannot say because of huge
> > passage of time I do not remember anything.
> >
> > Therefore we have to say Jabala was not following Eka Pati Vrata and
> > she was following the ancient custom of no marriage. She lived with
> > many Rishis and one of them was father of Satykama but she did not
> > remember which Rishi.
> >
>
>
> There is no basis for all this in the Upanishad.  There is no reason to
> construct that the boy's father was a Rishi. Secondly, nowhere does the
> mother say that she does not know the father of the boy.  All that is
> available in the mantra is that when asked about the gotra (not about the
> father), she says she does not know 'that'.  There is no reason to
> speculate that she did not know who fathered the boy.
>
> ४,४.२ Mantra:
>
> सा हैनमुवाच ।
> *नाहमेतद्वेद तात यद्गोत्रस्त्वमसि ।*
> बह्वहं चरन्ती परिचारिणी यौवने त्वामलभे ।
> *साहमेतन्न वेद यद्गोत्रस्त्वमसि ।*
> जबाला तु नामाहमस्मि ।
> सत्यकामो नाम त्वमसि ।
> स सत्यकाम एव जाबालो ब्रुवीथा इति ॥ ४,४.२ ॥
>
> __________
>
> भाष्य ४,४.२ एवं पृष्टा जबाला सा हैनं पुत्रमुवाच*नाहमेतत्तव गोत्रं वेद हे
> तात*
> *यद्गोत्रस्त्वमसि ।*
> कस्मान्न वेत्सीत्युक्ताऽहबहु भर्तृगृहे परिचर्याजातमतिथ्यभ्यागतादि चरन्त्यहं
> परिचारिणी परिचरन्तीति परिचरणशीलैवाहं परिचरणचित्ततया *गोत्रादिस्मरणे मम मनो*
> *नाभूत् ।*
> यौवने च तत्काले त्वामलभे लब्धवत्यस्मि ।
> तदैव ते पितोपरतः ।
> अतोऽनाथाहं साहमेतन्न वेद यद्गोत्रस्त्वमसि ।
> जबाला तु नामाहमस्मि सत्यकामो नाम त्वमसि स त्वं सत्यकाम एवाहं
> जाबालोऽस्मीत्याचार्याय ब्रुवीथाः यद्याचार्येण पृष्ट इत्यभिप्रायः ॥२ ॥
>
>
>
> > > The BG itself in the first chapter talks about what evil effects will
> > come
> > > about when women become fallen.
> >
> > I think the Mahabharata story is saying women are not sinful in matter
> > of choosing and living with any husband because they follow natural
> > instincts like birds and animals. Like animals cannot be sinful women
> > also cannot be sinful in this matter.
>
>
> How can we conclude so? We have the famous subhashita:
>
> आहारनिद्राभयमैथुनं च सामान्यमेतत्पशुभिर्नराणाम् ।
> धर्मो हि तेषामधिको विशेषः धर्मेण हीनाः पशुभिस्समानाः ॥ which holds for all
> times.
>
> VS
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