[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Re: Ramopakhyana of Mahabharata vs. the Uttara Kanda of Ramayana

Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
Fri May 6 23:39:11 CDT 2016
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Dear friends,

In the last sarga of the Uttarakanda it is clealy mentioned that Valmiki wrote the Ramayana with the Uttarakanda. So there is no do doubt that the Ramayana was of the seven kandas.

Regards,
Sunil KB

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On Thu, 5/5/16, S Jayanarayanan sjayana at yahoo.com [advaitin] <advaitin at yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: [advaitin] Re: [Advaita-l] Ramopakhyana of Mahabharata vs. the Uttara Kanda of Ramayana
 To: "A. Discussion Group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>, "yahoogroups" <advaitin at yahoogroups.com>
 Date: Thursday, May 5, 2016, 11:04 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       > (1) Ramopakhyana
 contains events from EVERY Kanda of the Valmiki Ramayana,
 EXCEPTING the Uttara Kanda. Why omit a whole Kanda, if
 it's so important?
 > (2) Why does a
 Phalashruti for the FULL Ramayana appear at the end of the
 Yuddha Kanda (but not previous Kandas!)?
 > (Yuddha Kanda says:
 रामायणमिदं कृत्स्नं
 शृण्वतः पठतः सदा ||  This FULL
 Ramayana, one who listens or reads...)
 >
 (3) Samkshepa Ramayana, at the beginning of the Ramayana,
 has no reference to any narrative in the Uttara Kanda. Why
 not include at least a bit?
 > (4) The
 "Rama Rajyam" as described in the Yuddha Kanda
 talks about a sorrowless Utopia: EVERYONE is joyous (and
 moral)!
 >     How can sorrowful
 disturbances appear within the Rama Rajyam (as claimed in
 Uttara Kanda), if the rule of Rama is claimed to be
 perfection?
 > (5) Ramayana 1-4-2 says the
 Kandas are six in number. Why not say SEVEN Kandas, by
 including the Uttara Kanda?
 >  
  
 The most important of the
 above reasons is (2) - the Yuddha Kanda containing the
 Phalashruti for the FULL Ramayana:
  
  रामायणमिदं
 कृत्स्नं शृण्वतः पठतः
 सदा || 
  
  "This FULL Ramayana, one who listens or
 reads..."
  
  
 However, there are two reasons for holding the
 Uttara Kanda to be a part of the Ramayana:
  
 (i) The Adhyatma Ramayana,
 from the Brahmanda Purana, contains an Uttara Kanda.
 (ii) The Srimad Bhagavatan has some shlokas
 revealing a few key events from the Uttara Kanda of the
 Ramayana.
  
 To those who
 speak of "tradition", here is a view:
  
 http://www.valmikiramayan.net/ 
  "Story starts from the fifth chapter of
 Book I, and tradition demands it to be read with the
 others.
  This stipulation is not obligatory
 to Uttara Kaanda, a later kaanda, wherein Sita's
 expulsion to forest takes place."
  
 Regards,
 Kartik
 
     
      
 
     
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