[Advaita-l] Paul Hacker's erroneous view

V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Sat Sep 3 12:26:29 CDT 2016


On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 10:54 PM, D Gayatri <dgayatrinov10 at gmail.com> wrote:

> //Why
> would a 'Vaishnava' Shankara, as per Paul Hacker, bear the name of the
> creator Shiva?//
>
> First of all Paul Hacker only implies that Shankara has affinity to
> vaishnavism. Secondly, there is no rule that vaishnavas cannot bear the
> name of Shiva. Gaudiyas consider Shiva himself as the best vaishnava!
>

But they themselves never bear the names of Shiva!!

>
>
> On Saturday, 3 September 2016, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Also, Paul Hacker is thoroughly let down by Sureshwara and Padmapada.
>> Both
>> have very clearly established that Shankara was indeed Shiva.  Sureshwara,
>> in another vartika, says Shankara bore the name of 'Vedhā', Creator. Why
>> would a 'Vaishnava' Shankara, as per Paul Hacker, bear the name of the
>> creator Shiva?
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 10:23 PM, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Praveen R. Bhat <bhatpraveen at gmail.com
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Namaste Subbuji,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for bringing in an important point which I was planning to make
>> >> yesterday, but didn't because I had not read through all that was being
>> >> discussed. This is amiss in people who lack the background of such
>> kAvya
>> >> composition or tarka basis. Even in vyAkaraNa sUtras, what is prApta
>> alone
>> >> can be a candidate for consideration, be it negation or not.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Very true. Only because it is prāpta Padmapada brings in Shiva. None can
>> > explain this without bringing in the Shiva-Shankara identity.  Aprāpta
>> > pratiṣhedhah is a dosha.
>> >
>> > vs
>> >
>> >
>> >> No one would think that Shankaracharya is Shiva due to his name being
>> >> similar, bringing in the necessity of consideration or negation.
>> >>
>> >> Kind rgds,
>> >> --Praveen R. Bhat
>> >> /* Through what should one know That owing to which all this is known!
>> >> [Br.Up. 4.5.15] */
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 10:07 PM, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
>> >> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 7:03 PM, D Gayatri <dgayatrinov10 at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > The very comparison by Padmapada arises only because of the fact
>> >>> that he
>> >>> > > believed that Shankara was Shiva avatara. Otherwise there is no
>> >>> reason to
>> >>> > > make that comparison for the mere name being Shankara.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
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