[Advaita-l] GunAtIta and jIvanmukta

[Raghav Kumar Dwivedula]

Another possibility is that the word samAdhi can be restricted to mean only
sampraGYAta samAdhi to get around the absence of pramANa prameya vyApra in
NS. But i do not see any reason to restrict it in this manner.

On 29-Sep-2016 9:06 pm, "Raghav Kumar Dwivedula" <raghavkumar00 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> One small addendum -  the word samAdhi in the verse is treated as a
> synonym for brahman. And we say
> samAdhiH nAma brahma, samAdhi-nimitta-praGYAvagamyatvAt.
>
> Om
>
> On 29-Sep-2016 9:03 pm, "Raghav Kumar Dwivedula" <raghavkumar00 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Ravi Kiran ji
>> You may find this of interest. Commenting on advaita prakaraNa verse 37,
>> a prakaraNa having many references to the sitting-still type of
>> nidhidhyAsana,
>> We have
>> सर्वाभिलापविगतः सर्वचिन्तासमुत्थितः ।
>> सुप्रशान्तः सकृज्ज्योतिः समाधिरचलोऽभयः ॥ ३७ ॥
>>
>> The word samadhi is parsed as समाधिः  *समाधिनिमित्तप्रज्ञावगम्यत्वात् *
>> ; समाधीयते अस्मिन्निति वा समाधिः ।
>>
>> The first meaning viz., samAdhipraGYA avagamyatvAt implies 'known through
>> the 'experience' or state of consciousness brought about by samAdhi.'
>> (Generally the second meaning is the preferred meaning. But the first does
>> not have to be wrong.)
>>
>> When sufficient prior shravanam is already there,  there is no reason to
>> deny the possibility that certain other obstacles, which are preventing the
>> arising of apratibandhaka GYanam, get removed by samadhi-born praGYA.
>>
>> (Technically though, it will be said  NS does not permit pramANa prameya
>> vyApAra so GYAnam is not possible in that particular state. It has to be
>> either before or after. But we can get around that technical objection by
>> saying that like a flickering tubelight which comes on sometime later after
>> flipping the switch of shravaNam. The samadhi born praGYA
>> (RtambharApraGYA?) serves the purpose of removing other lingering obstacles
>> (viparita bhavana-s?) to the arising of GYAnam.)
>>
>> Dont know if your line of enquiry is related to what i wrote. Hope it
>> helps.
>>
>> Om
>> Raghav
>>
>> On 29-Sep-2016 5:28 pm, "Ravi Kiran via Advaita-l" <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Namaste Sri Chandramouli Ji
>> >
>> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 4:31 PM, H S Chandramouli <
>> hschandramouli at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Namaste Sri Ravi Ji,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Reg  << Noted, in JMV, the advaita (paramArthika) jnAna is told as
>> > > asamprajnAta samAdhi ( ref in Muktika Up 2.53,54) , which alone is
>> termed
>> > > as nirvikalpaka samAdhi ? >>,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I have not read  Muktika Up. So I cannot comment.   The terms
>> relating to
>> > > Samadhi appearing  even in advaitic literature sometimes pertain to a
>> > > yogi (who is not a jnani in the advaitic sense) and at other times
>> to a
>> > > jnani. Hence it is always difficult to understand significance the
>> term
>> > > samAdhi correctly unless the context is clear. Atleast that is my
>> > > understanding.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Reference is from JMV in manonAsa prakarana, which is quoting muktika
>> up.
>> >
>> > Agree with the difference noted with yogi from jnAni.
>> >
>> > Question is more with the (Atma darshana) jnAna itself ? what is the
>> > difference ( if any, in lakSana etc), if you happen to know ?
>> >
>> > where it (advaita jnAna) is considered as NS (if not from JMV) ?
>> >
>> > Isn't NS also a yogic terminology synonymous with asamprajnAta samadhi ?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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