[Advaita-l] Brahma satyam jagan mithya - in Gaudapada Kārikā
Venkatesh Murthy
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Thu Feb 23 01:16:18 EST 2017
Namaste
The scientist in the lab will not see Bheda between food and trash
because both have electrons, protons and neutrons. But when he comes
out of lab and goes to lunch he will make the Bheda between food and
trash. He will eat food only but not trash. I understand this. But
people here are talking as if this Paramarthika and Vyavharika
conditions will be there for ever. No. Big mistake. Vyavaharika will
completely vanish at some time. Then what? Will you still say there is
Bheda? This is the problem with the Bheda arguments. Why look far?
Everyday in Sushupti everybody will not experience Bheda. Where is
Bheda there? Why this focus on Bheda? Bheda is Tuccha and Mithya.
As a matter of fact there is a book Bheda Dhikkara written by Advaitis.
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:44 AM, kuntimaddi sadananda via Advaita-l
<advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> Durgaji - PraNAms.
>
> The answer lies in your question itself. Janga mithyaa - mithyaa means it is not non-existent. From the absolute point - there is nothing other than brahman. Jnaani understands that there is nothing other than the self at the absolute level but at the relative level (or transactional level ) the world of plurality exists. From the point of Gold, there are no ornaments other than gold - that is the vision of gold-smith. Yet at transactional level - rings or different from bangles and their utilities and date of births etc all differ. There is no confusion there. It is like knowing all are fundamentally electrons, protons and neutrons. That understanding does not make me equate garbage and the delicious food as one - There is ontological difference.
> Hari Om!Sadananda
>
> From: V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> To: Durga Prasad Janaswamy <janaswami at gmail.com>; A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:04 AM
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> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:17 AM, Durga Prasad Janaswamy via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Hari Om
>> Namaste.
>>
>> If a jnani says "Brahma satyam Jagan mithya",
>> then does it not amount to 'Jnani has a bheda buddi'?
>>
>
> He can say that to teach others. As part of anusandhānam also he can invoke
> such statements. Also, that statement is bheda-nindā or bheda-negation
> specific and hence does not espouse bheda.
>
>
>
>>
>> Regards
>> -- durga
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:02 AM, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I have heard that Bhaskara had openly proclaimed that his sole objective
>> > is to criticise Shankara. It appears that the first pejorative use of
>> > 'maayaavaada/in was by him. How can he be called an advaitin? Also
>> > Ramanujites distinguish Yadavaprakasha's school from Advaita. There is a
>> > project to reconstruct this school from the various passages of the
>> > Sribhashya.
>> >
>> > regards
>> > vs
>> > On Feb 22, 2017 3:21 PM, "H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l" <
>> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Namaste Sri Venkatraghavan Ji,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Reg << Please could you elaborate the basis by which one should
>> consider
>> > > bhesdAbheda vAdins such as BhAskara as advaitins? >>,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Let me clarify that I have made that statement based on such references
>> > > being made by some authors like Sri Venkataramiah, not by my own study
>> of
>> > > Sri Bhaskara’s works. Sri SSS also in his work
>> > वेदान्तप्रक्रियाप्रत्यभिज्ञा
>> > > (vedAntaprakriyApratyabhij~nA) has covered the works of Sri Bhaskara
>> > along
>> > > with those of other advaitins like Sri Padmapada, Sri Vachaspati
>> Mishra,
>> > > Sri Ananda Bodha, Sri Chitsukhacharya etc. In his work “History of
>> > Vedanta
>> > > Vichara” in kannada, Sri SSS includes Sri Bhaskara along with other
>> well
>> > > known advaitins.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Regards
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