[Advaita-l] Debunking Drishti-Srishti Vada and Eka Jiva Vada - part 1

[Aditya Kumar]

Well, DSV is also a creation theory. Instead of God/Ishwara, the Jiva is the creator. 

      From: Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
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Namaste
DSV EJV requires guts and that is why most people cannot accept it. Here
you have to take full responsibility for creating this Illusion of the
World from your own Avidyaa. It is easy for people without courage to put
full responsibility on God and say they are like monkeys or cats hanging to
God or being carried by God. Silly people. They don't have courage to stand
up and say Yes I have created this meaningless Samsaara. Don't blame God
because even that God you have created in your dream. If you blame God you
are blaming yourself.

This is very very difficult for timid people. Therefore they run to all
types of Creation Theories and say God is the cause. They are comfortable
if some other Force is answerable for misery in the World.

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste
>
> This  is hiding other parts of the same commentary in Hindi.
> << अथवा, पाण्डित्यं निर्विध्य  बाल्येन तिष्ठासेत्  (बृ.उ. ३.५) के अनुसार
> > ज्ञान  के  बल वाले  को  यहाँ  बाल  कहा । >>,
> >
> But in the same commentary he has said -
>
> इसी प्रकार सारी सृष्टि के प्रति स्वयं को कारण समझते ही संसार की बन्धकता
> समाप्त हो जाती है, अन्यथा बाह्य कारणों की शृंखला बढती रहती है । Here he is
> saying when he accepts he himself is the cause of Samsaara in DSV the
> Bondage will end. Otherwise the External Causes will keep on increasing and
> it will be difficult to escape from Bondage. It cannot mean Jeevan Mukta
> because for him the bondage has already ended. Therefore the DSV EJV is
> also for a Mumukshu. Jeevan Mukta can also accept it. But it is not only
> for Jeevan Muktas. That is a wrong interpretation.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 8:53 PM, H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> >
>> > Namaste Venkatraghavan Ji,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  I am copying here the commentary of Swami Maheshananda Giri in hindi
>> (not
>> > Sanskrit).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > << अथवा, पाण्डित्यं निर्विध्य  बाल्येन तिष्ठासेत्  (बृ.उ. ३.५) के अनुसार
>> > ज्ञान  के  बल वाले  को  यहाँ  बाल  कहा । >>,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > << athavA, pANDityaM nirvidhya  bAlyena tiShThAset  (bRRi.u. 3.5) ke
>> > anusAra j~nAna  ke  bala vAle  ko  yahA.N  bAla  kahA | >>.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > This  appears just after the version of the Swamiji himself which I had
>> > already referred to in my post.  Self explanatory. Does not need any
>> > comment. I am after all in good company ant not inventing things on my
>> own.
>> > Since my knowledge of Sanskrit as well as Vedanta sidhanta is very
>> limited
>> > I do rely on commentaries. But I do not think knowledge of Sanskrit
>> alone,
>> > aided by some vanity in such knowledge, is helpful in understanding
>> > Vedanta.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
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