[Advaita-l] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: World is mind alone: Shankara

Sanju Nath sanjivendra at gmail.com
Sun Jul 30 13:35:45 EDT 2017

Namaste Shri Bhat-ji,

Dhanyavaad for the clarification.  Makes sense, at least more than before.


> On Jul 30, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Praveen R. Bhat via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> Namaste Sanjuji,
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Sanju Nath via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> The following questions still come to mind:
>> 1. Hiranyagarbha, the cosmic mind, projects the universe
>> or
>> 2. the individual mind projects the universe because the universe
>> disappears during sushupti.
>> or
>> 3. Both of the above are valid and are two different prakriyas of
>> overcoming our ignorance of Brahman?
> ​Both are equally valid on what your tilt of mind is; the first for an SDV
> follower and 2nd for the DSV. The former merges all the vyaShTis into the
> samaShTi and the latter the samaShTi into a single vyaShTi who is himself.
>> To understand the samashti cosmic mind, it helps to understand the
>> vyashti individual mind, but question remained for me: both cosmic mind and
>> individual mind have the same functionality of projecting the universe,
>> since the universe resolves in our sushpti?
> ​In either case, the individual is equated with ​the projector.
>> But we also have the view that functionalities of both the cosmic samashti
>> and vyashti mind are different - cosmic mind projects, individual mind
>> perceives the projection.
> ​That is in SDV, which is perfectly fine. One sees the creation as created
> by Ishvara and finds oneself a tiny insignificant part ​
> of it.​ With the help of shAstra and the guru, one realises that although
> the functionalities are different between Ishvara and himself, they are
> only upAdhikRta, caused by adjuncts. When these are dropped on both sides,
> one's essence is no different from the essence of Ishvara. One doesn't have
> to think that he is the projector of the universe, but he is in essence
> non-different from the projector Ishvara.
>> Is it not possible to answer these questions with the limitation of
>> vocabulary as highlighted below?
> ​The limitations of vocabulary indicated were for questioning and finding
> faults with each statement. Such "faults" can be found within Shruti
> itself, let alone in verbose discussions and debates online.​ One has to
> understand the tAtparya of the discussion before just throwing some random
> high-flying lines which almost ridicule those having the discussion; the
> choice can instead always be to stay out of uninteresting discussions and
> remain in one's niSHThA, if that.
> Kind rgds,
> --Praveen R. Bhat
> /* येनेदं सर्वं विजानाति, तं केन विजानीयात्। Through what should one know
> That owing to which all this is known! [Br.Up. 4.5.15] */​
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