[Advaita-l] Vaadiraaja Teertha's Yuktimallika - Advaita Criticism - Slokas 1-511 to 1-524

[V Subrahmanian]

The name of the adhikarana was rendered erroneously; it should read:

tadananyatvam......

vs

2017-06-23 15:48 GMT+05:30 V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>:

> Dear Bhaskar ji,
>
> Your nicely articulated question has been answered by Shankara in the
> ārambhaṇādhikaraṇa bhashya: tadanyatvammm. BSB 2.1.14:
>
>  तस्मात्प्राग्ब्रह्मात्मताप्रतिबोधादुपपन्नः सर्वो लौकिको वैदिकश्च
> व्यवहारः — यथा सुप्तस्य प्राकृतस्य जनस्य स्वप्ने उच्चावचान्भावान्पश्यतो
> निश्चितमेव प्रत्यक्षाभिमतं विज्ञानं भवति प्राक्प्रबोधात् , न च
> प्रत्यक्षाभासाभिप्रायस्तत्काले भवति, तद्वत् । कथं त्वसत्येन वेदान्तवाक्येन
> सत्यस्य ब्रह्मात्मत्वस्य प्रतिपत्तिरुपपद्येत ? न हि रज्जुसर्पेण दष्टो
> म्रियते ; नापि मृगतृष्णिकाम्भसा पानावगाहनादिप्रयोजनं क्रियत इति । नैष दोषः,
> शङ्काविषादिनिमित्तमरणादिकार्योपलब्धेः, स्वप्नदर्शनावस्थस्य च
> सर्पदंशनोदकस्नानादिकार्यदर्शनात् । तत्कार्यमप्यनृतमेवेति चेद्ब्रूयात् ,
> अत्र ब्रूमः — यद्यपि स्वप्नदर्शनावस्थस्य सर्पदंशनोदकस्नानादिकार्यमनृतम् ,
> तथापि तदवगतिः सत्यमेव फलम् , *प्रतिबुद्धस्याप्यबाध्यमानत्वात् *; *न हि
> स्वप्नादुत्थितः स्वप्नदृष्टं सर्पदंशनोदकस्नानादिकार्यं मिथ्येति
> मन्यमानस्तदवगतिमपि मिथ्येति मन्यते कश्चित् ।*
>
> Someone may kindly give a gist of the above so that in case Sri Bhaskar ji
> is not able to view the above lines in his system, it will help him.
>
> Thanks and regards
> subbu
>
> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Bhaskar YR via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> 2) both abheda and bheda shrutis are atattvAvedaka.
>>
>> praNAms Sri Anand Hudli prabhuji
>> Hare Krishna
>>
>> When there was a discussion about shAstra prAmANya ( I don’t remember in
>> which group), when I said,  bandha mOksha, shAstra all are in the realm of
>> avidyA kshetra (vide adhyAsa bhAshya) someone asked me, OK after the dawn
>> of knowledge through shAstra vAkya you are going to say shAstra is also in
>> the avidyA kshetra, it is no more pramANa and pramANa, prameya, pramAtru
>> all are kevala avidyA vyavahAra so no reality in it. So after the dawn of
>> socalled knowledge you have you are sure that your approach towards pramANa
>> is avidyAtmaka.    If that is the case how can you be sure that the
>> socalled knowledge what you get from the shAstra is vidyA when shruti
>> itself is in avidyA kshetra ??  Since the person (pramAtru) who approach
>> the shruti is avidyAvanta, the pramANa the shruti is again in the realm of
>> this avidyA kshetra  you boldly declaring that what you got (prama)  from
>> this avidyA pramAna  which has been approached by avidyAvanta pramAtru is
>> ultimate satya and jnana!!  How can you be sure about your jnana when you
>> are claiming that shAstra is itself not directly teaching the brahman as
>> that and this ?? In short,  How can a atattvAvedaka vAkya can fetch you the
>> knowledge of tattva??  And again the karma, vidhi and phala which are part
>> and parcel of karma kAnda of veda you are  pushing it aside as avidyaka (if
>> not outrightly rejecting it)  and holding the other portion (jnana kAnda)
>> of same veda and claiming that knowledge obtaining from that is
>> unsublatable knowledge...It clearly shows your dubious approach towards
>> veda as pramANa.  He asked somany questions like this, I just remembered
>> this objectione when I read the shruti pramANa is in avidyAkshetra but
>> shruti knowledge is ultimate and other shruti / veda knowledge pertaining
>> to karma kAnda  is dvaita and hence avidyAtmaka.
>>
>> And frankly I don’t know what I had replied to him since it was almost a
>> decade ago :-)
>>
>> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
>> bhaskar
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