[Advaita-l] Who is Ishwara? He is NARAYANA only. Beautiful and soothing Narayana Bhajan

[Vidyasankar Sundaresan]

Kalyan, I have a two part answer for you. The first is as an individual
responding to you. The second is as a moderator of this list.

If you know yourself as nirguNa, nirviSesha, then you are no longer an
ignoramus. If you know yourself as any other, then you are the biggest
ignoramus. Yet, whatever little you know in your ignorance is only through
the light of your own self. Therefore, this nirguNa nirviSesha self is
described as the paraMjyoti.

That said, watch your language and your combative attitude. This list does
not exist to fatten anybody's ego. Over the course of several posts, it
appears that your motive is to showcase how well you can get under the
skins of other list members. In that case, take it elsewhere. It
contradicts your professed claims of wanting to have productive
discussions. You are trying the patience of almost everybody here. The
moderators have mostly taken a benign attitude towards your posting
history, but this is something up with which we don't have to put forever.

Vidyasankar

On May 21, 2017 1:33 AM, "Kalyan via Advaita-l" <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

Isn't the nirguNa nirvishesha Atman itself the biggest and only ignoramus
in advaita? It beats me how such an Atman, wallowing in ignorance, can be
described as param jyoti.

Regards
Kalyan


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On Sun, 5/21/17, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
vedanta.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Who is Ishwara? He is NARAYANA only. Beautiful
and soothing Narayana Bhajan
 To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
vedanta.org>
 Cc: "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
 Date: Sunday, May 21, 2017, 2:10 AM

 On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 11:05 PM,
 Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
 advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 wrote:

 > Namaste
 >
 > I listen to this
 popular Narayana Bhajan without fail everyday like
 > many many people -
 >
 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnLfUf1Iefc
 >
 > In the Narayana Sukta
 Narayana is the Ultimate Ishwara. Who is He? The
 > Upanisad has said -
 >
 > sa brahma sa śivaḥ
 sa hariḥ sendraḥ so'kṣaraḥ paramaḥ
 svarāṭ.
 >
 > He is
 Brahma, Siva, Vishnu, Indra and other gods. He is the
 > Imperishable, the Absolute, the Autonomous
 Being.
 >

 Sayana in the bhashya to this sukta says - it
 is not any mūrtiviṣeśa, that
 is not any
 particular form, meaning that it is Nirguna Brahman. He
 gives
 the shruti 'param
 jyotirupasampadya..' which is discussed in the brahma
 sutra bhashya as the self that is realized upon
 right knowledge. This is
 nirguna Brahman in
 Advaita.  Sayana also says that this entity is the
 adhishthana for the aropita jagat. That is
 again nirguna brahman.

 regards
 vs

 >
 > --
 > Regards
 >
 > -Venkatesh
 >
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