[Advaita-l] prayAshchitaM for sAvitribhraShTAH

[Venkatraghavan S]

Namaste Sri Rajesh ji,

I have not come across a differentiation between prAyashchitta for not
having upanayanam after 20, 21 and 22 years respectively. However, if such
a classification is per your understanding, then that is fine.

The book sankshepa dharma shAstram (a tamil work, which is a summary of
vaidyAnAtha dIkshitIyam) quotes a few sources - manusmriti, smrityartha
sAra Apasthambha dharma sUtra and vasiShTha dharma sUtra. Essentially, the
same prAyashchitta is suggested for a brAhmin aged over 16 years, kshatriya
over 22 years and vaishya over 24 years. After mentioning the prAyashcitta
given in the vasiShTha dharma sUtra, the book says (translated from tamil) -

"Apastambha also has suggested a prAyashcitta - Consult elders for a
prAyashcitta. Some say that upanayanam can be conducted after giving plenty
of dakshiNA and dAna."

You may want to check what smrityartha sAra and Apasthambha sUtra say.

Regards
Venkatraghavan


On 5 Nov 2017 4:49 a.m., "Rajesh Benjwal" <rbenjwal at gmail.com> wrote:

.Thanks Venkatraghavanji,

If you have crossed 20 years but not 21 then ashvamedha avabhrita is
prAyaschitta
but as per अश्वमेधं_गवालम्भं_सन्न्यासं_पलपैत्रिकम् |
देवराच्च_सुतोत्पत्तिः_कलौ_पंच_विवर्जयेत् || this is not possible in
kaliyuga.

If you have crossed 21 but not 22 years then there is uddAlaka vratam.

After 23 there is only the vrAtyastoma.

Same time prAyaschitta for upapAtaka should be as per capacity of the
person and in kaliyuga these prAyaschittas are out of capacity.
Removing prAyaschittas
totally will be another extreme. There is a possibility to create tryavarA
of one RRigvedIn one yajurvedIn one sAmavedIn and put the problem in front
of them. The prAyaschitta decided by them will be acceptable. So we looking
for this tryavarA, and let them decide the prAyaschittam.

Thanks again for your Help.



On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 11:22 PM, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> In uddAlaka vratam, I missed one step - after half a month on curd, 8 days
> on ghee, then six days on food received without seeking. The rest is the
> same.
>
> Regards,
> Venkatraghavan
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Namaste Sri Rajesh ji,
> > I concur with Sri Subrahmanian ji - but since you want shAstra vihita
> > prAyaschitta, please refer vashiShTha dharmasUtra 11.75-11.79
> >
> > http://www.hinduonline.co/vedicreserve/kalpa/dharma/
> > vasishtha_dharma_sutra.pdf
> >
> > The options offered are:
> > 1) uddAlaka vratam - for two months he should live on barley gruel
> > (yAvaka), one month on milk, half a month on curd, six days on food
> > received without being asked for, three days on water, and fast for one
> day
> > and night
> > 2) ashvamedha avabhrita - participate in the ritual bath at the end of
> the
> > ashvamedha
> > 3) vrAtyastoma
> >
> > Whether these options are possible I do not know, but I do feel for the
> > boys. Hope you find some way forward.
> >
> > Regards
> > Venkatraghavan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Rajesh Benjwal via Advaita-l <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> >> You are correct Subrahmanianji,
> >>
> >>
> >> My concern is we do not know what Shankaracaryaji saw in that particular
> >> person and allowed him. If any Jagadguru says that there is no need to
> >> perform any prAyashchita karma for sAvitribhraShTAH then it is
> acceptable
> >> but when someone allow to an individual who has come to him then this
> is a
> >> different thing. There are some sAstra pramAnam that bleesing of the
> >> siddha
> >> purusha is enough to remove your dosham.  So having blessing of such a
> >> person is equal to a prAyashchita karma.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 4:07 PM, V Subrahmanian <
> v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Rajesh Benjwal <rbenjwal at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>  Namaste Subrahmanianji,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for your help.
> >> >>
> >> >> In our Gurukula we follow sastras strictly, if we are looking for an
> >> >> alternate then again there must be some sastra pramanam in favour of
> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I understand your concern. Śiṣṭāchāra or their upādesha is also a
> >> pramana.
> >> >
> >> > regards
> >> >
> >> >
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