[Advaita-l] A new book in Kannada: Vidyaranya Vijaya Dundhubhi -
Aditya Kumar
kumaraditya22 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 8 00:28:43 EST 2017
Namaste,
If my views have hurt anyone, I sincerely apologise for the same. I have no hard feelings for Vaishnavas in general. There are many instances of matrimonial alliance among different sects. However, I am not apologetic about stating the truth. I am not a sycophantic hate-monger or a rabble-rouser. I am not making inflammatory comments against any person or sect. I am merely stating the facts. One has to read Mani Manjari to understand the extent of hatred one can cherish. As to what are the facts is a completely different matter. The previous post about Udupi temple is a clue.
When I say Vaishnavas, I mean their rabidly supremacist ideology which assumes propriety over all temple/deity/affairs. They can practise their supremacist ideology in their own homes or in their mutts. But when you start removing idols from temples, forcefully appropriating a personal view over everyone, meddling in other's affairs repeatedly, you don't have to interpret history because history itself is repeated.
I think in future, the Vaishnavas may even erase vibhuti on Shiva and put their nama instead because for them, he is supposedly a Vaishnava.
On Wednesday 8 November 2017, 8:59:22 AM IST, Gopal via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
Namaste,
>It is also worthy to take note that the grand Vijayanagara empire rapidly
declined and perished soon after the Vaishnavas took the helm.
If we continue to retrospectively interpret history in the lines of
intra-vedantic-darshana conflicts as above, then the next stop would be to
speculate whether those vaishnava sanyaasis conspired with the five
Bhamani kings to sabotage the great hindu empire only because an advaita
sanyaasi helped to create it ;-)
In that process we can also conveniently sweep under the rug (preferably a
Persian one) all the unparalleled dharma seva done by vaishnava sanyaasis
like Sri Sripada raja, Sri Vyaasa raja and a couple of the latter's
disciples to the kingdom and the kings like Krishnadeva raya. We can also
find fault (self-hypnotism, avidhya, ajnaana ??) of the Vijayanagara
kings who not only recognized these sanyaasis but also the haridaasas as
jewels of their courtrooms.
Historical facts do not matter at all, when we let the dry, blinding colors
of half-cooked, quarter-educated, zero-objective mindset blind our eyes
with khandana, dhooshana and sheer visceral hatred of anybody who does not
follow our favorite philosophy.. even if they are dead and gone swallowed
by actual tides of history.
Maybe pressing the pause button on our guesswork and trying to browse thru
some historical facts would help.. How about
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijayanagara_Empire and corresponding pages
on Sri Vyaasa raaja, Sri Sripaada raja, Purandara daasa, Kanaka daasa --
all contemporary vaishnava personalities intimately connected with the
golden period of Vijayanagara empire? A book on this perspective
(exclusively) would be William Jackson's Vijayanagara Voices...
thanks
..gopal
On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Aditya Kumar via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> Thanks for sharing the samples. Vidyaranya's time is an important
> landmark in Indian history. There was a power struggle which started during
> this period between Vaishnavas and Vaidikas which has continued on till
> date. It is also worthy to take note that the grand Vijayanagara empire
> rapidly declined and perished soon after the Vaishnavas took the helm.
> Sorry if it is off-topic.
> On Tuesday 7 November 2017, 1:30:56 PM IST, V Subrahmanian via
> Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> This is a repeat announcement in view of new members.
>
> A new Kannada book with the title 'Sri Vidyāraṇya Vijaya Dundubhi' has
> been published recently. This book, authored by Sri.G.R.Patil, Dharwad,
> Karnataka, is a third in the line of books on the topic of a supposed
> debate between the Madhva pontiff Sri Akshobhya Tirtha and Sri Vidyaranya.
> The author has strongly denied the very event. The first book 'Akshobhya
> Vijaya Vibhrama' evoked a lot of reactions and was followed by 'Sri
> Vidyāraṇya viṣayaka ākṣepa nirāsa' and the present book is the third.
>
> The present book is primarily a rejoinder to Sri Raghuvijaya Tirtha of Sri
> Kudali Arya Akshobhya Tirtha Maṭha, repudiating the objections raised by
> him on the first book. It also rejects the views of, and answers the
> doubts raised by, Sri Viśvanandana Tirtha of Hanosoge Maṭha. The views of
> another Madhva are also reviewed and discrepancies thereof disclosed in
> this new book.
>
> The book of 450 pages in good print is priced at Rs.250 per copy.
> Enquiries may be made to: Sri Venkatesh - ph
> 9036572651, Bangalore. One may contact this email id too:
> srinivasan.rbi at gmail.com
>
> I have uploaded two samples from the book: 1. A page titled 'Bhīmabala' and
> 2. The contents page here:
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/download/5o27639fp1itg59/Bheema+Bala.pdf
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/download/djttnth033i9bf8/Dundubhi+contents.pdf
>
> A particular section of the book contains invaluable citations from the
> shruti, smriti and purāṇas on the topic of 'nirguṇa, niṣkriya, nirākāra',
> etc. Brahman.
>
> regards
> subbu
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