[Advaita-l] Chanting Gayatri overseas

[Kalyan]

//Simple question: Is the Jagadguru of Sringeri wrong in blessing the SVBF
initiative in Pennsylvania?

Answer: I bipin chauhan on behalf of Eternal Law declared it totally wrong.//

Namaste Shri Chauhanji

I salute you. You have the courage to call a spade as a spade. That too in a forum where there are many diehard followers of Sringeri maTha. Now, let us brace for the backlash. :)

Regards
Kalyan


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On Sat, 10/7/17, कुवँर बिपिन चौहान <bipinchauhan7 at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Chanting Gayatri overseas
 To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 Cc: "Raghav Kumar Dwivedula" <raghavkumar00 at gmail.com>, "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>, "Kalyan" <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com>, "Vēdānta Study Group" <vedant.study at gmail.com>
 Date: Saturday, October 7, 2017, 2:35 PM
 
 Namaste !
 
 Please desh, kaal, stithi ke pare hai paralukik yeh purntah
 galat hai ki gayatri jambudwip se bahar uccahran kari jaye.
 
 Tark sansarik mat hai anytha sab neti neti hai.
 
 Yeh spasht hai ki gayatri ji gupt hain 
 
 https://www.facebook.com/shrimahakaleshwar/posts/843149805785998
 
 My guru batuk shastri (Brahmnal, Varanasi) always says
 it's next to impossible we go against shastr on anyway.
 
 Simple question: Is the Jagadguru of Sringeri wrong in
 blessing the SVBF initiative in Pennsylvania? 
 
 Answer: I bipin chauhan on behalf of Eternal Law declared it
 totally wrong.
 
 For this my Guru ke Guru Swami Karpatri fight/ shastrath
 with madan mohan malviya that Widow marriage is not possible
 the fool vaishya kul empire goenka say as per shastr Swami
 Karpatri ji right but malviya is also not wrong due to desh
 kal stithi shloka of gita ji.
 
 I know Jagadguru Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamiji but
 ignorance or will of Brahman all this happen because Bharat
 unable to follow 
 
 https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B6%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%A8
 from long ago.
 
 
 Anyway 
 Ram 
  
 
 On 7 October 2017 at
 10:23, Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 wrote:
 That's
 an excellent bhAShya reference, Subbu ji,  on how dharma
 can
 
 definitely be reinterpreted by shiShTa-s in keeping with the
 present desha
 
 and kAla. No doubt it's not a licence to say, anything
 goes. We have to
 
 cautiously move on.
 
 
 
 But to say that all NRI brahmins are patita-s as long as
 they are based
 
 abroad seems untenable.
 
 
 
 Om
 
 Raghav
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 07-Oct-2017 8:20 AM, "V Subrahmanian via
 Advaita-l" <
 
 advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org> wrote:
 
 
 
 > On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 1:52 AM, Vēdānta Study Group
 via Advaita-l <
 
 > advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org> wrote:
 
 >
 
 > > Harih Om
 
 > >
 
 > > Dharma (and its interpretation) evolves through
 time.
 
 >
 
 >
 
 > Shankara, in his Brahma sutra bhashya ३.१.२५
 has said:
 
 >
 
 > यस्मिन्देशे काले
 निमित्ते च यो
 धर्मोऽनुष्ठीयते, स एव
 
 >
 देशकालनिमित्तान्तरेष्वधर्मो
 भवति ; तेन न
 शास्त्रादृते
 धर्माधर्मविषयं
 
 > विज्ञानं
 कस्यचिदस्ति । - Dharma is place-time
 specific and hence the
 
 > scripture is the best source to decide what is dharma
 and what is not.
 
 >
 
 > And in innumerable places Shankara has stated that
 śiṣṭāchāra, conduct of
 
 > the noble, as a source of Dharma/adharma. In fact the
 Taittiriya Upanishad
 
 > itself says: Follow those who are wedded to Dharma, in
 deciding what course
 
 > of action you have to take, while in doubt, etc.
 
 >
 
 > While the śiṣṭa-s may not encourage people going
 abroad, yet they have
 
 > continued to bless those who live abroad, for whatever
 reasons. I have
 
 > heard the earlier Jagadguru would bless those who seek
 his blessings while
 
 > a boy is going abroad for higher studies: 'My
 blessings are there on this
 
 > condition: Study there and return to our Land and serve
 here.' Now, over
 
 > the years we have huge settlements abroad who seek to
 follow dharma. In
 
 > fact I came across at least one person, who has studied
 the entire Rg Veda
 
 > and is now teaching people even in India, through Skype
 from the US. There
 
 > are sincere seekers who have said 'the quite,
 serene atmosphere there is
 
 > very conducive to dhyāna, contemplation, etc.'
 This is what is sought by
 
 > anyone who is a seeker, ultimately.
 
 >
 
 > Above all, we have to also remember this:  Between
 niyama (observances) and
 
 > yama (fundamental moral conduct), the latter takes
 precedence over the
 
 > former in spiritual progress and attainment. Swami
 Vidyaranya in the
 
 > Jivanmuktiviveka has given references for this rule. He
 also points out
 
 > cases of extremity where 'a certain person looked
 for a pure place all over
 
 > the world to conduct his religious practice and could
 not find a single
 
 > one'. What is important above all is for a person
 to value ahimsā, satyam,
 
 > akrodha, brahmacharya and non-stealing. These are the
 five yama-s that are
 
 > crucial for spiritual evolvement. Niyama-s are there to
 support these in
 
 > the long run. They are not to be belittled either. An
 individual-specific,
 
 > balanced, view is what is moderate.
 
 >
 
 > regards
 
 > subbu
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 > > What is stated in the
 
 > > Brhadaranyaka upanishad may be contextual to the
 social situation then.
 
 > > These boundaries can be widened as contemporary
 sampradayavits see fit.
 
 > >
 
 > > As someone correctly points out, even the
 Jagadguru of Sringeri has
 
 > blessed
 
 > > the SVBF mandir to be set up in Pennsylvania.
 Surely these Acharyas have
 
 > a
 
 > > better understanding of the commentaries and how
 to make them applicable
 
 > in
 
 > > present times. Personally, I don't see
 ourselves fit to form a universal
 
 > > opinion for Hindus to follow, but certainly these
 teachers are in a
 
 > > position to do so, and they have. So far I have
 not seen any counter to
 
 > > this point
 
 > >
 
 > > Namaste,
 
 > > Prashant
 
 > >
 
 > > On 6 October 2017 at 11:14, Kalyan via Advaita-l
 <
 
 > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org> wrote:
 
 > >
 
 > > > I am surprised that in this entire discussion
 no one has quoted the
 
 > > > Brihadaranyaka upanishad so far.
 
 > > >
 
 > > > Br.Up.1.3.10 advises against foreign travel.
 Shankara interprets it in
 
 > > the
 
 > > > same way.
 
 > > >
 
 > > > Travel should be confined to lands inhabited
 by people possessing Vedic
 
 > > > knowledge - this is the gist.
 
 > > >
 
 > > > Thus, there is Shruti prohibition against
 foreign travel.
 
 > > >
 
 > > >
 
 > > > Regards
 
 > > > Kalyan
 
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