[Advaita-l] Accounting for Brahman appearing as the world

[V Subrahmanian]

On 9 Sep 2017 13:19, "Ravi Kiran" <ravikiranm108 at gmail.com> wrote:

Namaste

On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 12:37 PM, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> On 9 Sep 2017 12:27, "Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> Namaste Sri Praveen
>
> You are right. If Badhayam Samanadhikaranyam is not accepted it becomes
> Parinama Vada only. But Advaita is not Parinama Vada. It is Vivarta Vada.
> After Bhranti is over the Snake is not seen. In Badhayam Samanadhikaranyam
> the Badhita Vastu will be Vyavaharika or Pratibhasika but not Paramarthika.
> It will not be seen after realization.
>
>
>
> BSB: ब्रह्मसूत्रभाष्यम् । तृतीयः अध्यायः । तृतीयः
> पादः । व्याप्त्यधिकरणम् । सूत्रम् ९ - भाष्यम्
>
> व्याप्तेश्च समञ्जसम् ॥ ९ ॥
> भाष्यम् ‘ओमित्येतदक्षरमुद्गीथमुपासीत’ (छा. उ. १-१-१)
> <http://advaitasharada.sringeri.net/php/format.php?bhashya=
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> इत्यत्र
> अक्षरोद्गीथशब्दयोः सामानाधिकरण्ये श्रूयमाणे अध्यासापवादैकत्वविशेषणपक्षाणां
> प्रतिभासनात् कतमोऽत्र पक्षो न्याय्यः स्यादिति विचारः । तत्र अध्यासो नाम —
> द्वयोर्वस्तुनोः अनिवर्तितायामेव अन्यतरबुद्धौ अन्यतरबुद्धिरध्यस्यते ;
> यस्मिन् इतरबुद्धिरध्यस्यते, अनुवर्तत एव तस्मिन् तद्बुद्धिः,
> अध्यस्तेतरबुद्धावपि— यथा नाम्नि ब्रह्मबुद्धावध्यस्यमानायामपि अनुवर्तत एव
> नामबुद्धिः, न ब्रह्मबुद्ध्या निवर्तते — यथा वा प्रतिमादिषु
> विष्ण्वादिबुद्ध्यध्यासः — एवमिहापि अक्षरे उद्गीथबुद्धिरध्यस्येत, उद्गीथे वा
> अक्षरबुद्धिरिति । अपवादो नाम — यत्र कस्मिंश्चिद्वस्तुनि पूर्वनिविष्टायां
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> मिथ्याबुद्धेः निवर्तिका भवति — यथा देहेन्द्रियसङ्घाते आत्मबुद्धिः,
> आत्मन्येव आत्मबुद्ध्या पश्चाद्भाविन्या ‘तत्त्वमसि’ (छा. उ. ६-८-७)
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> इत्यनया
> यथार्थबुद्ध्या निवर्त्यते — यथा वा दिग्भ्रान्तिबुद्धिः
> दिग्याथात्म्यबुद्ध्या निवर्त्यते —
>
> Here both the adhyasa and the apavada type of sāmā...' are shown.  In
> apavada type (which is what is relevant to the bādhāyām...type), when the
> wrong identification as the Self with the body-mind complex is dispelled by
> the right knowledge of the Self, the sāmānādhikaraṇya is between 'the
> body-mind complex' and the 'Atman',
>

The below statement -


> 'The body-mind (that was wrongly seen
> as the Self) is (now known to be) nothing but the Upaniṣadic Atman.'


 is not clear - it seems to equate the mithyA upAdhi with the upanisadic
Atman ??

can you elaborate, what was intended ?


Yes. Just as the snake is realized to be none other than the rope, the
body-mind complex is realized to be in truth the true self. Here the
imagined object is negated on the realization of the real object there.
Upon negation what remains is the real object alone. What was wrongly seen
as snake is verily the rope. This is the baadha saamaanaadhikaranyam.

vs


The
> right knowledge of the Atman dispels the wrong knowledge of the body-mind
> as the Self.  This is the bādhā of the wrong knowledge.
>
> VS
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>
> Thanks