[Advaita-l] Question on adhyaasa
kuntimaddi sadananda
kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 6 20:40:05 EST 2018
Chandramouliji - PraNAms
As I understand:
Avidya involves the divisions -a) jeeva - jagat - Iswara or b) any triad etc., of that which is indivisible or akhandam.
Realization involves, therefore, a recognition that all the divisions are only apparent and not real - or adhyaasa - that is how the adhyaasa bhaashya starts - yshmad, ashmad pratya(s)...
Aham bramaasmi involves recognition of the indivisible as substantive of all the apparent divisions. Hence it includes all the three - jeeva, jagat and Iswara.
That is what mithyaatma nishayaH - word used in Panchadasi 6th Ch.
In the understanding of akhanda using the vRitti jnaanam - all the divisions are sublimated.
They are not removed but understood as I am the very substratum for all the triads.
Hence it is not destruction of the triad but understanding that they are only apparent substratum is I am or Iswara
sarva bhutastam aatmaanam sarva bhuutanicha aatmani|
or
Yomam pasyati sarvatra sarvanch mayi pasyati.
Then the triad becomes vibhuuti only.
Hari Om!
Sadananda
Chandramouliji - PraNAms
As I understand:
Avidya involves the divisions -a) jeeva - jagat - Iswara or b) any triad etc., of that which is indivisible or akhandam.
Realization involves, therefore, a recognition that all the divisions are only apparent and not real - or adhyaasa - that is how the adhyaasa bhaashya starts - yshmad, ashmad pratya(s)...
Aham bramaasmi involves recognition of the indivisible as substantive of all the apparent divisions. Hence it includes all the three - jeeva, jagat and Iswara. That is what mithyaatma nishayaH - word used in Panchadasi 6th Ch.In the understanding of akhanda using the vRitti jnaanam - all the divisions are sublimated.They are not removed but understood as I am the very substratum for all the triads.
Hence it is not a destruction of the triad but understanding that they are only apparent substratum is I am or Iswara
sarva bhutastam aatmaanam sarva bhuutanicha aatmani|
or
Yomam pasyati sarvatra sarvanch mayi pasyati.
Then the triad becomes vibhuuti only.
Hari Om!Sadananda
On Thursday, December 6, 2018, 8:39:36 PM GMT+5:30, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:
Pranams Sri Sadananda Ji,
My question was not concerning a jnAni, but an ajnAni. My doubt was
<< Is it being suggested that avidyA ( Ignorance ) can be removed by reference to the external world, without reference to the Atman ?? As far as I know, as per sidhanta, avidyA can be destroyed and Brahman Realized ONLY as Atman and not in any other way. Please clarify.>>.
The doubt has not been addressed.
Pranams and Regards
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:53 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:
Pranams Sri Sadananda Ji,
Reg << Whilethe existence forms adhishTaanam for the world and thus they are togetherthe removal of ignorance, therefore. involves cognitively recognizing the pureexistence without attributes while seeing the world. It is like recognizing thesunlight while looking at the moon and its light. Without the presence of themoon, the sunlight cannot be recognized. >>,
Sorry for the interjection. I am a little perplexed and feelperhaps I am missing something. Is it being suggested that avidyA ( Ignorance )can be removed by reference to the external world, without reference to theAtman ?? As far as I know, as per sidhanta, avidyA can be destroyed and BrahmanRealized ONLY as Atman and not in any other way. Please clarify.
Pranams and Regards
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