[Advaita-l] Question about Avaccheda vada
Aditya Kumar
kumaraditya22 at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 9 07:33:17 EST 2018
Thanks for elaborating. This surely helps me understand your position better. I have to study this angle more. But I can notice resemblance with kashmir shaivism in this view. In KS, Parameshwara has supreme will, supreme potency to create. But this attributes kartritva to iswara which brings guna and karma into the equation. Naturally ishwara becomes obligated to create maintain and destroy and engages in its own samsara. Hence the KS call Shankaras Advaita as shanta brahma vada as no kartritva is attributed to Ishwara. Further if ishwara is the creator and brahman is witness only, then parinama vada is more reasonable than vivarta. Again I might be completely wrong about this. If both ishwara and creation are mithya then I dont understand how ishwara is said to be the lord and inner controller. It will be same as any other jiva, from absolute view.
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 9/2/18, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Question about Avaccheda vada
To: "Aditya Kumar" <kumaraditya22 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Date: Friday, 9 February, 2018, 11:45 AM
Namaste.
Reg <<
Ishwara is
free from dehadi bhava and hence it
follows that there is no limiting adjunct. >>,
The
portion starting with “hence” is
not
what is intended. What is
intended is just that Iswara is not controlled by avidya. On
the other hand, he
is the Controller of avidya.
A brief
review would perhaps be useful though it might appear
to be like carrying coal to New Castle. My apologies for the
same.
In my
understanding, avidya and mAyA are one and
the same entity. It is a
vastu and not just power or shakti as used in common
parlance. Also it is a mithya vastu.
It is triguNAtmika and madeup
of parts. Every smallest part of it
includes all the three elements viz jnAna/kriya/Ichha
(satva/rajas/tamas) but
in different proportions. In the case of
Iswara, satva predominates and controls the rajas/tamas
parts. If rajas/tamas
parts were to be completely absent, Iswara can neither
Create nor Will (Ichha/sankalpa)
to Create. Since satva predominates, Consciousness is not
concealed (AvaraNa is
absent) from Iswara and hence
He is a sarvajna, sarvashakta, satya
sankalpa etc. Thus Iswara is said to be endowed with the
power of mAyA which in
common parlance emphasizes the ability to Create and
control.
In the
case of a jIva, tamas predominates over satva/rajas
parts and is the Controller. It conceals (AvaraNa)
Consciousness from the jIva
and he is led to believe that he is the doer/enjoyer etc
which is the root
cause of samsAra. Thus he is said to be endowed with avidya
which in common
parlance emphasizes ignorance.
am not
sure if with this understanding your questions are
automatically answered. You may please review and confirm.
Regards
Virus-free. www.avast.com
More information about the Advaita-l mailing list