[Advaita-l] Ghata Bhashya 2 - MUST SEE- superb videos on Sankara Bhashya

[V Subrahmanian]

Another fine point that the Acharya is making is: Vedanta is about 'sat
kaarana vaada' really and not 'sat kaarya vaada' because in vedanta there
is no kaarya at all, being mithya, vikaara, vaachaarambhanam naamadheyam,
kaaranam ityeva satyam.

This point was made a few years ago by the eminent scholar Sri Kutumba
Sastry in a seminar at Tumkur.

regards
subbu

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 8:50 AM, Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste
>
> Another point is the difference between Sankhya and Advaita Vedanta though
> both have accepted Satkarya Vada. Satkarya Vada of Sankhyas is saying the
> effect Pot is existing in cause before Pot is made manifested. This is also
> accepted by Vedantis. Adi Sankara has agreed in घट भाष्य the effect Pot is
> Vidyamaana even before it is produced from Clay but it is not available to
> us because it is hidden -
> घटादिकार्यस्य द्विविधं ह्यावरणम् — मृदादेरभिव्यक्तस्य तमःकुड्यादि,
> प्राङ्मृदोऽभिव्यक्तेर्मृदाद्यवयवानां पिण्डादिकार्यान्तररूपेण संस्थानम् ।
> तस्मात्प्रागुत्पत्तेर्विद्यमानस्यैव घटादिकार्यस्यावृतत्वादनुपलब्धिः ।
>
> Sankhyas then say the effect is produced by cause like curds is produced by
> milk. There is a real Parinama happening. This is not accepted by Vedanta.
> Why? Because there is no real Parinama. There is no real effect also.
> Effect is only imagined like a snake is imagined in a rope. This is Vivarta
> Vada. Vacarambhana Vikara Namadheya Mruttiketyeva Satyam is telling us only
> Clay is real. The Pot is not real.
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Namaste
> >
> > In the second part we are learning the Karana Karya Bhava itself is for
> > Vyavahara only. Because we are saying Clay is the cause and Pot is the
> > effect the Clay is being called as Karana. Similarly because for
> Vyavahara
> > Brahman is the cause and the world is the effect Brahman has got
> Karanatva.
> > But Vastutaha Brahman is not even a cause. There is no Karanatva in
> > Brahman. It is Sattaa Maatra or Pure Existence. It will not produce
> > something.
> >
> > Another point is why is Sruti is speaking like Brahman is the cause in
> > Vaakyas like Yato Vaa Imaani Bhootaani Jaayante and so on. Why it is
> > speaking like all creatures are coming from Brahman? The method of
> teaching
> > is Adhyaropa Apavaada. First it will teach something and then say that
> > teaching is given up at some stage. Like in Vacarambhana Vikara Namadheya
> > Mruttiketyeva Satyam the Sruti will first say the Names and Forms are
> > Adhyaropa on Clay but what is the Satya? It is Clay only. From Clay you
> can
> > make Pot, plate, toy animal elephant and so on. But they are all only
> Names
> > and Forms of Clay. The reality is there is only Clay. The names and forms
> > are Adhyaropa. They are Mithya only.
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Namaste
> >>
> >> Listen to the second part of the series -
> >>
> >> https://youtu.be/HTq_vb-al6k
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> -Venkatesh
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > -Venkatesh
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> -Venkatesh
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