[Advaita-l] SADHANA - The different Paths

[Ryan Armstrong]

Namaste Sri Belavadi

In my understanding, the term गुरु refers to one who has realised the Truth
and knows (innately) अहम् ब्रह्मास्मि.
Manu says something about this as being the difference between an आचर्य and
a गुरु. (I shall have to find the reference if needed.)
The guru knows who he is and instructs the student as to how the student
may reach the same realisation.

As such, the guru IS the Absolute.
So I would say that it is quite redundant to say "immortal guru" since the
guru must be immortal in the first place for the title to be used.

Of course, this is within व्यवहार.
In the final verse of तत्त्वोपदेष (ascribed to aadi shankara)
states नाद्वैतं गुरुणा सह - There is no advaita between the guru (and the
student).
The guru exists while in ignorance and the seeker needs assistance to
dispel the ignorance.
Once ignorance is dispelled, the truth that only  Brahman exists is known,
and distinction of teacher/student falls away.

Yours in Truth
Ryan

On 16 January 2018 at 08:34, Belavadi Shankar via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Where can anyone find an 'immortal' GURU?
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:06 AM, KAMESWARARAO MULA via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >  Dear Friends,                       Today's Times has an interesting
> > article in speaking regarding 'GURU' in support of my statement"
> > "You can' to do Justice to your disciples with the existing physical body
> > as your subtle nature is biased and you are inclined to some people for
> > their wested interests/benefits"
> > According to great philosopher Sh. Jiddu KrishnaMurthy (1895-1986): No
> > mortal being can be a Guru.
> > Yes Indeed,  Why because although your inner consciousness may not allow
> > to speak wrongly or act wrongfully to your disciple, since you are also
> > passing in karmic time that one should always remember. Your Karmic
> > bondages will not allow you to act with free will or to go a job which
> has
> > to be done at that time or some time they may also force you to do a
> wrong
> > action out of their wested interests/ benefits.
> > One great personality asked me on one day that " who will remove your
> > karma" ?. my answer will be of two kinds.No one will remove our karma,
> you
> > have to bear the fruits of your karma for which we are fully responsible.
> > or other wise, it can also be like this: who ever removes your karma ,
> they
> > only removes my karma.
> > "Guru' is a form of light, Niranjana, Nirvikara, Nirguna, Parabrahma
> > Swarup in which you would like to join along with him in the 'Ananta
> > Jyothi' of Brahmanda after leaving your physical body.
> > If you keep faith in god and follows the 'Guru mandala' then it is
> certain
> > that SriGuru can reduce your karma up to some extent so that you can able
> > to cross the samsara with his helping hand only. No body can escape the
> > karma on their own, it needs help of the other, you may call it as
> > relatives/friends.
> > In-order to bear the 'Prarabdha Karma',  JKM says: one should have
> > programmed events of life or compulsions of the mind  to have desireless
> > ness, awareness of the supreme with absolute self-surrender, unfaltering
> > faith, single minded love. The continuous maha nam Jap is required for
> > self-realisation. One should always remember the fact that we are born
> > initiated  and we should strive to enlighten our soul for giving the
> > opportunity to realise our self by Brahman. The whole creation is Brahman
> > or Truth for which no explanation is required. JKM, also said that
> > initiation conducted at the level of the senses by mortal beings can
> never
> > leads to truth as the TRUTH IS MUCH BEYOND THE RANGE OF THE SENSES
> although
> > it is causeless and there is no purpose to know the truth.
> > SriGuru Padaravindarpana Mastu
> > Kameswara
> >
> >
> >
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