[Advaita-l] Sankara in BU 4.3 says Turiya is Supreme State (Was Re: Sleep, tamas and brahman)

V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Wed May 2 01:48:01 EDT 2018

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Praveen R. Bhat via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Subbuji,
> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 7:28 AM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > During the discussion when Kalyan ji said that the two Upanishads, BU and
> > Mandukya have different teachings, the former holding deep sleep itself
> as
> > the highest (liberated state) and the latter showing the Turiya as beyond
> > the three states,
> >
> ​The तात्पर्य of the entire Shruti ​being one is lost on many and it takes
> a long time for anyone to get such तात्पर्यनिश्चय even after having
> पुरुषार्थनिश्चय। Hence, Bhagavan Bhashyakara clarifies under Brahmasutra
> 1.4.14 in the context of one perceived conflict so:
>> यथाभूतो ह्येकस्मिन्वेदान्ते सर्वज्ञः सर्वेश्वरःसर्वात्मैकोऽद्वितीयः
> कारणत्वेन व्यपदिष्टः, तथाभूत एव वेदान्तान्तरेष्वपि व्यपदिश्यते ;

A similar statement from the Bhashyakara is, in the Mandukya bhashya:

 निर्बीजतयैव चेत् , सति प्रलीनानां सम्पन्नानां सुषुप्तिप्रलययोः
पुनरुत्थानानुपपत्तिः स्यात् ; मुक्तानां च पुनरुत्पत्तिप्रसङ्गः,
बीजाभावाविशेषात् , ज्ञानदाह्यबीजाभावे च ज्ञानानर्थक्यप्रसङ्गः ;
तस्मात्सबीजत्वाभ्युपगमेनैव सतः प्राणत्वव्यपदेशः, सर्वश्रुतिषु च
कारणत्वव्यपदेशः ।

// * It is spoken of as the cause in all the Upanishads by *assuming* It
(for the time being) to be the seed of others (the whole creation)* //

Such statements are guiding lights for the student/sadhaka of Advaita.
These statements go to clear confusion and give clarity when one encounters
apparent differences/contradictions across Upanishads and Bhashyas.
Identifying such statements in the Bhashya is by itself a blessing.  If one
is not aware of such statements, the loss is immense for it is only
misunderstanding and wrong impression that will prevail pertaining to
Upanishads and the Bhashya and the Bhashyakara.

> There cannot be clearer words for Advaitins in any case.


> gurupAdukAbhyAm,
> --Praveen R. Bhat
> /* येनेदं सर्वं विजानाति, तं केन विजानीयात्। Through what should one know
> That owing to which all this is known! [Br.Up. 4.5.15] */
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