[Advaita-l] The Foundations of Adhyāsa - 8 (The Three States)

[V Subrahmanian]

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:52 AM Ravi Kiran via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste,
>
> A small clarification:
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 9:42 AM H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Namaste Kartik Ji,
> >
> > Reg  << So it appears that although a Jnani may have so-called "waking"
> or
> > "dream" states, there is a
> > big difference in his case that the UNDERLYING Turiya state is never
> > "forgotten". In other
> > words, the Jnani does not have the *Adhyasa* of confusing the "waking" or
> > "dream" to be real! >>,
> >
>
> does a Jnani know the dream to be unreal while in dream ? ( in other words,
> the Turiya Jnana attained in waking continues to be available during dream
> state also ? )
>

Brihadaranyaka mantra: 4.3.20:

ता वा अस्यैता हिता नाम नाड्यो यथा केशः सहस्रधा भिन्नस्तावताणिम्ना तिष्ठन्ति
शुक्लस्य नीलस्य पिङ्गलस्य हरितस्य लोहितस्य पूर्णा अथ यत्रैनं घ्नन्तीव
जिनन्तीव हस्तीव विच्छाययति गर्तमिवपतति यदेव जाग्रद्भयं पश्यति तदत्राविद्यया
मन्यतेऽथ यत्र देव इव राजेवाहमेवेदं सर्वोऽस्मीति मन्यते सोऽस्य परमो लोकः ॥
२० ॥

//Now, when  he feels as if he were being killed or overpowered, or being
chased by an elephant, or falling into a pit, in short, when he  fancies at
that time, thorough ignorance, whatever frightful  thing he has expericned
in the waking state, that is the dream  state. So also, when he thinks he
is a god, as it were, or a king,  as it were, or thinks: "This universe is
myself and I am all,: that  is his highest state.  //

Shankara's bhashya, the relevant portion:

एवम् अत्यन्तप्रक्षीयमाणा अविद्या उद्भूता च विद्या सर्वात्मविषया यदा, तदा
स्वप्नेऽपि तद्भावभावितः — अहमेवेदं सर्वोऽस्मीति मन्यते ; स यः सर्वात्मभावः,
सोऽस्य आत्मनः परमो लोकः परम आत्मभावः स्वाभाविकः । Br.Up.4.3.20

[Then when ignorance decreases and knowledge'
increases, (the result is as follows). The text describes
the content and nature of the knowledge: And when
he himself becomes a god, as it were.· When, in the
waking state, meditation regarding the gods prevails.
he considers himself a god, as it were, on account of
the impressions generated by it. The same thing is
being said of the dream state too: He becomes 'a god,
as it were.' Or a king, as it were : Having been
installed as the ruler of a state (in the waking state).
he thinks in his dreams also that he is a king, for he
is imbued with the impressions of his kingly state.
*Similarly, when (in the waking state) his ignorance is*
*extremely attenuated, and the knowledge that he*
*comprises all arises, he thinks under the influence of*
*these impressions in the dream state also, 'This*
*(universe) is myself, who am all.' That, this identity*
*with all, is his highest state, the A.tman's own natural,*
*supreme state.]*

Since the realization 'I am all', sarvoham' arises ONLY by the
falsification of the objective world, mithyatva nishchaya', the above
Mantra and Bhashya is the proof of the Jnani relizing even in dream that
the world is mithya. We have to remember that falsification of world does
not mean non-perception of the world. See the Panchadashi verses I posted
in this thread.

regards
subbu

>
> or it is to be understood that..
>
> Jnani knows that dream is unreal and waking is unreal too (as all avasthas
> are due to adhyaasa), during waking only?
>
> Thanks
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