[Advaita-l] Advaita Siddhi series 042 - upajIvyatvena pratyaksha prAbalya nirAkaraNam

[Venkatraghavan S]

Namaste Raghav ji,

According to nyAya, there cannot be samyoga between two all pervading
entities. If that rule is not accepted, and if mind and the self were both
all pervading, then cognition would be eternal, as samyoga would always
occur - and no sleep would be possible. However, nothing is cognised in
deep sleep, which must mean that samyoga does not happen then.

In their view, in deep sleep, the mind enters a nADI called purItat and it
is said that no samyoga between the mind and the self happens when it is
present there.

However that raises another question - as the self is present even within
the purItat, won't a samyoga happen there too?

To this, some naiyyAyikas hold that for cognition to arise, the mind must
be in contact with the organ of touch, and that organ is not present in the
purItat nADi.

That in itself raises some issues, which have to be dealt with, but we are
straying from the main topic.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan

On 29 Nov 2018 07:29, "Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l" <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

Namaste Venkatraghavan ji
Thank you for the post.

Regarding the naiyAyika, you wrote-
'In order for samyoga to occur between two entities, at least one of the
entities must be finite. This is because samyoga is a temporary
relationship that is born when one entity comes into contact with the
other. *Two infinite entities cannot temporarily be in contact with each
other*. Either they are permanently in contact or not at all. The self is
admitted to be all-pervading, therefore if the mind must come into contact
with the self, the mind cannot be all-pervading.'

How would the naiyAyika address the still stronger statement that
"If there are two entities X and Y which can come into temporary contact
with one another, then it follows that *both*  X and Y are necessarily
finite. If AtmA is *all-pervading*, it would always be in contact with even
a finite mind. Because wherever mind is, even that space/domain is going to
be pervaded by the all-pervading AtmA. So it follows that only if *both*
entities are finite and non-all-pervading, there is a possibility of them
coming into temporary contact with each other. "

But the naiyAyika holds the AtmA to be all-pervading ?

Thank you
Raghav

On Wed 28 Nov, 2018, 10:09 PM Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <

advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org wrote:

> Namaste,
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> Venkatraghavan
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