[Advaita-l] The Foundations of Adhyāsa - 8 (The Three States)

[Ravi Kiran]

Namaste Sri Bhaskarji

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 5:51 PM Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:

> praNAms Sri Ravi Kiran prabhuji
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> Hare Krishna
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> Sorry for the very belated reply.  Just today got some free time to look
> at the mails :
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> I must say here I am only sharing my thoughts based on the traditional
> belief (or should  I say most popular belief) that advocates jnAni-s deha
> dhAsraNa (not ofcourse from the ajnAnis’ point of view) his avidyA lesha
> like digbhrAnti, his prArabdha karma, his rAga dvesha etc.  Infact I have
> my own reservations with regard to all this  which are not so tenable to
> the most of the advaitins J Lot of things has been discussed with regard
> to jnAni’s BMI and his rAga-dvesha but in vain J While on the subject,
> br.up somewhere says, when all the desires residing in one’s heart have
> been got rid of, then the mortal becomes immortal and brahman here in this
> life.  Just as the cast-off slough of a snake would lie lifeless in an
> ant-hill, so also does the body of the enlightened person lie there and he
> is NOW BODILESS (ashareeri) the prANa, brahman alone, the light of pure
> consciousness alone.  But statements like this has comfortably tagged to
> inert state like nirvikalpa samAdhi to get the verbatim meaning of
> bhAshyakAra.  Whereas it is saying the intrinsic nature of ashareeratvaM is
> revealed as soon as svarUpa jnana dawns.
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> Will it not call for steadying that svarUpa jnAna  which is illumined
> without any further samshaya or viparyaya?
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> Ø    jnana is not the result of any action.  jnana which we are talking
> here is nor any objective knowledge where pramAtru, prameya, pramANa
> triputi involved.  It is svarUpa jnana when this is realized, it removes
> the very knowership of Atman (i.e. jnAtrutva vide shankara bhAshya in
> geeta).
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Agreed

> So obviously question remains is : after svarUpa jnana
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*If there is no further* samshaya and/or viparyaya after svarupa jnAna and
have direct/immediate experience of the samyak jnAna phalam, why would
there be further effort to steady jnAna ? :-)

> who is going to or has to  steady this  jnana or who has to keep its
> intensity intact by constantly and repetitively remembering this jnana??
> There is a statement with regard to this topic : vijnAya prajnAm
> kurveeta…And there is an elaborated discussion on this very subject.
> Kindly search the archives some of the best brains in Advaita have shared
> their thoughts on this very interesting subject.
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>   And the same Upanishad subsequently says the person who know HIM
> directly in this manner desiring what??
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> There is a reference in Brih. upanishad regarding YAGYavalkya taking
> to pravrajyA (Vidvat)  for steadiness in jnAna ?
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> Ø     BTW, as per some famous Advaita prakaraNa this sage is not
> brahmavidvarishTa.  His longing for cows in the story, made him somewhat
> inferior to paripUrNa jnAni J  I am not saying this, as said, some
> authoritative source in tradition voiced the opinion like this.
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> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
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> Bhaskar
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