[Advaita-l] HH Sri Paramananda Bharathi Swamiji attained mukti

Sudhanshu Shekhar sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com
Fri Aug 2 14:15:16 EDT 2019


Hari Om Praveen ji,

The way I used A's effect is not in the sense of effect of material cause.
Just take A=Brahma-jnAna and B= A's effect = ~shoka-moha. It will make
sense and argument remains valid. A=>B and ~B=>~A.

Regards.
Sudhanshu.

On Fri 2 Aug, 2019, 20:36 kuntimaddi sadananda via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

>
>     On Friday, August 2, 2019, 07:31:57 AM PDT, Praveen R. Bhat via
> Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> Since the AvaraNa is said to be eliminated, it has to exist to be
> eliminated; in that, it was necessarily bhAvarUpa. In such a case, its
> kAraNa cannot be abhAvarUpa.
> Praveenji - PraNAms
> My understanding may be wrong. Bavaruupatvam requires not just existence
> but should have a capacity to project.
> If someone asks me ' Do you know gaagaabuubu?"
>  I can say -never heard of it. I do not know what it is? - response by my
> mind? - at this stage only aavarana due to avidya. When someone points to
> object on the floor that I also see, and he says that is 'gaagaabuubu'. Now
> the ignorance of gaagaabuubu is gone. At this stage, there is no vikshepa
> involved. - only the naama aspect is established - just one example.
> Projection can start only if have some partial knowledge of an object but
> not complete knowledge as it - there is an object there - 5 feet long -
> coiled - soft when I stopped on it and is lying on the aisle. 'There is
> (something)' - the projection of the mind viskhepa later as it is a snake,
> etc.
> Question is only do we attribute the vikshepa shakti to avidya or to the
> mind which is empowered by maaya shakti at the individual level to project
> the snake on the object that is perceived with incomplete attributes?
> Lack of knoweldge is one thing but projection of something else where the
> object is different  -to separate the aavarana vs vishepa - or ignorance vs
> maaya.
> This may be samantics but separation makes it easy to comprehend that
> muula avidya is gone but projection continues for a jeevan mukta as long as
> BMI losts.
> Hari Om!Sadananda
>
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