[Advaita-l] Is the eternity and apaurusheyatva of Vedas a mere belief

[Sudhanshu Shekhar]

Hari Om Raghava ji,

Do you feel that that our belief that Vedas are apaurusheya is reasonable?

Regards.
Sudhanshu.

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 4:32 PM kuntimaddi sadananda via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> PraNAms
> Eternity also relative here just as ignorance is anaadi. Both muula avidya
> and therefore its counter Vedanta both come vyaavahaarika Satyam - and only
> eternal in that realm.
> Now is the existence of muula avidya - a belief, faith or fact? If it is
> taken as fact then its counter should also come under the same category.
> That I have been searching for inexhaustible eternal happiness seems to be
> a fundamental problem which cannot but be anaadi.
>
> Hari Om!Sadananda
>
>
>
>     On Friday, June 7, 2019, 04:35:48 AM EDT, Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via
> Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>  Namaste Sudhanshu j
> The usual binary is logic vs. belief . I would suggest that there is also
> 'reasonable belief' which cannot be categorically put in either category.
>
> For example the belief that there is continuity beyond the death of the
> body for the stream of consciousness. Or the law of karma. In which
> category would you put them?
>
> Also we could say that they (law of karma etc.) are not falsifiable. They
> don't conflict with anything logical. If any thing in the Vedas is (let's
> say) found to conflict with reason/logic, then either of two things
> happens.
>
>  1. We thoroughly reexamine the so-called logical claims of pratyaxa and
> anumAna and may find them to be flawed. This usually happens with claims of
> science offering reductionist physicalistic analyses of consciousness ,
> prANa, manas etc.
>
> 2. If needed, suitable reinterpretation may be needed of Vedic sentences
> especially where they are dealing with areas of overlap with other
> pramANas, taking in to view the shad-lingas etc.
>
> Most of the Vedic sentences deal with matters which are anyway  by
> definition beyond the purview of pratyaxa and anumAna.
>
> Om
> Raghav
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri 7 Jun, 2019, 1:46 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar via Advaita-l, <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Hari Om,
> >
> > we all agree that the basis of Dharma and Brahma-jnana is Vedas alone.
> > Vedas are the tool to both abhyudaya and nihshreyas. Further, we hold
> them
> > to be a pramana. That is the Veda-vakyas are pramana just by virtue of
> > being a Veda-vakya. The reasons adduced are mainly the apurusheyatva and
> > eternity of Vedas.
> >
> > We all have gone through the arguments adduced in support of eternity and
> > apurusheyatva of Vedas.
> >
> > My question is -- do these arguments really establish the eternity and
> > apaurusheyatva of Vedas OR are these our beliefs. That is, whether our
> > Sanatan Dharma and our sadhana-for-Moksha are essentially belief-driven
> or
> > are they based on sound logic.
> >
> > Regards.
> > Sudhanshu.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Archives: http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/
> > http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.advaita
> >
> > To unsubscribe or change your options:
> > https://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/advaita-l
> >
> > For assistance, contact:
> > listmaster at advaita-vedanta.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Archives: http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/
> http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.advaita
>
> To unsubscribe or change your options:
> https://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/advaita-l
>
> For assistance, contact:
> listmaster at advaita-vedanta.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Archives: http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/
> http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.advaita
>
> To unsubscribe or change your options:
> https://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/advaita-l
>
> For assistance, contact:
> listmaster at advaita-vedanta.org
>


-- 
Joint Commissioner of Income-tax,
Pune

sudhanshushekhar.wordpress.com