[Advaita-l] Jnana and Ajnana - a beautiful dialogue

[Venkatraghavan S]

Namaste Raghav ji


>  So there is no respite. A kind of eternal vigilance
> has to be maintained as the price of liberty.
>

That doesn't sound like freedom to me! :)

Regards
Venkatraghavan

On Sat, 9 Nov, 2019, 7:28 AM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l, <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > PeriyavAL: Know that there are Guttu Shlokas in Bharatam (Mahabharata)?
> >
> > Myself: These are Guttu Shlokas because they were composed to reduce the
> > speed of PiLLaiyar's (Ganesha's) writing.
> >
> > PeriyavAL: There is a Guttu Shloka in Gita! You know?
> >
> > Myself: Don't know.
> >
> > PeriyavAL: '*aj~nAnenanAvR^itaM j~nAnaM tena muhyanti jantavaH | j~nAnena
> > tu tadaj~nAnaM yeSAM nAshitamAtmanaH ||*' (5.15,16)
> >
> > "Atma who is *jnAnarUpam* (in the form of knowledge) is veiled with
> > *ajnAnaM* (ignorance). People are deluded because of that. If the
> > *ajnAnaM* is
> > destroyed by *jnAnaM*, Moksha will be attained."
> >
> > Isn't this doctrine puzzling, confusing? How can *ajnAnaM* veil *jnAnaM*?
> > If it is veiled, how by that same *jnAnaM* will *ajnAnaM* be destroyed?
> --
> > is the confusion. Vinayaka blinks. In those few seconds Vyasa has readily
> > composed the *shloka*s of many chapters.
> >
> > For this puzzle that comes in the fifth chapter, he gives the answer in
> the
> > tenth chapter!
> >
> > teshAmanukampArtham ahamaj~nAnajaM tamaH |
> > nAshayAmi AtmabhAvastaH j~nAnadIpena bhasvatA ||
> >
> > To show mercy on the *bhaktA*s who always sing and think only about me
> and
> > melt by those acts in their hearts, I as the *jnAna rUpi* (form of
> > knowledge) enter the state of mind that remains *akhaNdAkAram* (not
> > fragmentary, entire, whole) and is known as *AtmabhAvam* (state of the
> > soul), reach the *prati-bimbam* (reflection), strengthen the *jnAnam* and
> > set aside (the veil) of ignorance.
> >
> > (In other words, *svarUpa jnAnam* by itself will not set aside ignorance.
> > It only notifies its presence. But if the same *svarUpa jnAnam* is
> > reflected by the *mano vRutti* (mode/nature/state of mind) that results
> > from continued experience of the state of meditation on the Vedanta Maha
> > Vakhyas after studying and reflecting on them, that will immediately burn
> > the ignorance. Even if the sun has the *svabhAva* (inherent nature) to
> burn
> > cotton, it burns the cotton only when the rays touch it through a special
> > lens!
> >
> >
> > Read more:
> >
> >
> http://periva.proboards.com/thread/2491/kanchi-paramacharya-satsangam-shashtrartha-02#ixzz64gsvLt00
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