[Advaita-l] The infallibility of Shankara's Ishavasya 3 bhashya in the face of Sri Vadiraja's remarks

[V Subrahmanian]

In Kathopanishat it is said that in the loka-s other than this manushya
loka it is difficult to get Atma jnanam:  Shankara in the Bhashyam remarks:
In pitru loka ...since they are engrossed in enjoying karma phala bhoga.
This applies to other bhoga-pradhana loka-s.

यथादर्शे तथात्मनि यथा स्वप्ने तथा पितृलोके ।
यथाप्सु परीव ददृशे तथा गन्धर्वलोके च्छायातपयोरिव ब्रह्मलोके ॥ ५ ॥
 गन्धर्वलोके
कथमिति, उच्यते — यथा आदर्शे प्रतिबिम्बभूतमात्मानं पश्यति लोकः
अत्यन्तविविक्तम् , तथा इह आत्मनि स्वबुद्धावादर्शवन्निर्मलीभूतायां
विविक्तमात्मनो दर्शनं भवतीत्यर्थः । यथा स्वप्ने अविविक्तं
जाग्रद्वासनोद्भूतम् , तथा पितृलोके अविविक्तमेव दर्शनमात्मनः
*कर्मफलोपभोगासक्तत्वात्* ।

There is a statement  *स्वर्गात्तु वेश्यागृहसन्निवेशात्*

*regards*

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 12:38 PM Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste
>
> Allasani Peddanna’s *Manucharitramu *says, “the Gods who have gotten over
> the everyday problem of satiating hunger and thirst by drinking *Amruta*,
> too, need enormous feasts to satisfy the craving of their taste buds.”
>
> The residents of heaven have every facility available for satisfying every
> sense organ. They are always enjoying something. Therefore it is very
> difficult for them to think of Brahman and Vidya. That is why we hear
> stories of Indra doing bad acts like going to Ahalya without being
> satisfied with his own wife Sachi Devi.
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 4:23 PM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > A post that explains the faultlessness of Shankara's bhashya, in the face
> > of an objection by a Madhva scholar is available here:
> > https://www.facebook.com/groups/vedaonline/permalink/2424911127778484/
> >
> > or can be accessed here too:
> >
> >
> >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VVd9qZiGFuHlic9QCGZnsUFoaBnrFEXw/view?usp=sharing
> >
> > regards
> > subbu
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>
> -Venkatesh
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