[Advaita-l] Fwd: Is empathy a function of ahamkara?

[श्रीमल्ललितालालितः]

I'll write here a few sentences in Sanskrit, since that is an easy way to
present paribhAShA-s.
अयुतसिद्धानां नित्यः सम्बन्धः समवायः इति तार्क्किकमतप्रसिद्धम् ।
यत्र यत्र च तार्क्किकैः समवायः स्वीक्रियते तत्र तत्र
मीमांसकैर्वेदान्तिभिश्च तादात्म्यम् अङ्गीक्रियते ।
तादात्म्यं नाम अभेदः ।
अत्यन्ताभेदस्य च सम्बन्धत्वासम्भवात् भेदसमानाधिकरणोऽभेदः तादात्म्यम् इति
परिष्क्रियते ।

तत्र उपादानोपादेययोः तादात्म्यं यथा तथा गुणगुणिनोः क्रियाक्रियावतोः
जातिव्यक्त्योः  केवलविशिष्टयोः अवयवावयविनोः अंशांशिनोः भवति । तत्र एकतरस्य
सत्त्वेप्यन्यस्योत्पत्तिविनाशदर्शनाभ्यां तादात्म्यस्य न समवायसदृशं लक्षणं
कर्त्तुं शक्यते ।

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On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 8:03 PM श्रीमल्ललितालालितः <
lalitaalaalitah at lalitaalaalitah.com> wrote:

> You are confused.
> The definition you presented is that of samavAya and you are claiming it
> to be that of tAdAtmya.
> Once you understand the scope of tAdAtmya, you will be able to understand
> that your definition doesn't fit.
>
>
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>
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 7:58 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Pranams.
>>
>> Reg  << We just tend to say that it is avayava and which can be
>> recognized by only due process.
>> That avayava has tAdAtmya with whatever is generated by them >>,
>>
>> The above statement practically conveys no meaning. This is surely not
>> Advaita Sidhanta. What we are referring to as tAdAtmya is between two (or
>> more perhaps) entities which are manifest and observed/experienced together
>> always, and which are not observed/experienced independently of each other
>> any time.
>>
>> I am stopping with this.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 6:40 PM श्रीमल्ललितालालितः <
>> lalitaalaalitah at lalitaalaalitah.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Chandramouli,
>>> We just tend to say that it is avayava and which can be recognized by
>>> only due process.
>>> That avayava has tAdAtmya with whatever is generated by them.
>>>
>>> Raghav,
>>>
>>>> I understand the distinction here. Since the avidyA vRttis are there, we
>>>> should say "the vRttis are experienced" but being sAxI pratyaxa ;
>>>>
>>>
>>> The ignorance, pleasure, etc. are experienced by sAxI which has
>>> upAdhi(avidyA-vRtti). This avidyA-vRtti or sAxI(which is consciouness
>>> attched to that) causes the saMskAra and then we remember after we wake up.
>>>
>>> The avidyA-vRtti is directly illuminated by chaitanya. But, anything
>>> directly illuminated by chaitanya doesn't become vyavahArayogya, similar to
>>> mano-vRtti-s in jAgrat, etc. We need some other pramANa, like arthApatti,
>>> etc. to make them appear clearly.
>>>
>>>> we do not
>>>> experience pleasure and ignorance then since that needs antaHkaraNa.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wrong.
>>> We do experience pleasure and ignorance, etc. through avidyA-vRtti or in
>>> other words sAxI(remember previous note added.).
>>>
>>>> The
>>>> vRttis leave a saMskAra which is recollected (smRti) upon waking, as
>>>> pleasure and ignorance.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The avidyA-vRtti-s is janya and hence it ends and leaves a saMskAra.
>>> That helps generate smRti of pleasure, ignonce, etc. while we wake up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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