[Advaita-l] Veda Vyasa's consistency across Bhagavata, Vishnu and Shiva Puranas
sreenivasa murthy
narayana145 at yahoo.co.in
Mon Feb 24 06:15:35 EST 2020
Dear Sri Venkataraghavan,
I would like to bring to your kind notice that my two postings
were made keeping simple minded MUMUKSHUS in view. It is not meant for eminent scholars like you.
Your Write : "The very act of shAstra adhyayana is a way of engaging in the contemplationof the self". Is this in tune with Upanishads and teaching of SriShankara? Please verify.
Mundaka Upanishad says : anyA vAcO vimuncatha ||
Please read the following excerpt with a cool and open mind and understand well what Bhagavan Ramana has taught. And then you read my two postings once again. Then you can call me by any name you may like. As a Vedantin I accept both flowers as well as brickbats with equanimity.
Quote:
Thisarticle appeared in the magazine "The Mountain Path'" January1972 issue, published from Sri Ramansramam, Tiruvannamalai.
It was in 1940 that one day, one of the devotees sitting in the hall raised thetopic regarding the utility of reading books on religion and philosophy. Inreply Sri Bhagavan said:
" You wake up in the morning and look into the mirror and the mirror showsyou that you have a growth and that you have to get rid of it. You may goon looking into any number of mirrors; every mirror will tell you the same, butNO MIRROR CAN EVER SHAVE YOU. YOU HAVE TO SHAVE YOURSELF, instead ofwasting time looking into mirror after mirror it is BEST to start shavingafter having looked into the first mirror and known the truth.
So also all the books will tell you the same truth, perhaps in slightlydifferent ways. Instead of wasting time reading book after book WHYNOT REALISE FOR YOURSELF WHAT WAS OBVIOUS FROM THE VERY FIRST BOOK".
Theend.
unquote.
I have nothing more to say about your comments.
With respectful namaskars,Sreenivasa Murthy
On Monday, 24 February, 2020, 8:01:56 am GMT, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
Namaste,
The very act of shAstra adhyayana is a way of engaging in the contemplation
of the self. It is not a waste of time. Studying different scriptural works
is not because one hopes to get a different truth from them but to dwell on
the very same truth conveyed by all scripture.
If you are convinced that such an activity is a waste of time and everyone
else is wrong, please save your energy and do not further waste your time
engaging with others.
This is a forum for advaita discussion. Please do not discourage people
from undertaking the very activity that this forum is meant for.
Regards,
Venkatraghavan
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 17:04 sreenivasa murthy via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> Dear Sri Jaladhar,
> I would like to bring to your kind notice that my two postings
> were made keeping mumukshus in view.
>
> Please read the following excerpt with a cool and open mind and understand
> well what Bhagavan Ramana has taught. And then you read my two postings
> once again. Then you can call me by any name you may like. As a Vedantin I
> accept both flowers as well as brickbats with equanimity.
> Quote:
> Thisarticle appeared in the magazine "The Mountain Path'" January1972
> issue, published from Sri Ramansramam, Tiruvannamalai.
>
>
>
> It was in 1940 that one day, one of the devotees sitting in the hall
> raised thetopic regarding the utility of reading books on religion and
> philosophy. Inreply Sri Bhagavan said:
>
> " You wake up in the morning and look into the mirror and the
> mirror showsyou that you have a growth and that you have to get rid of it.
> You may goon looking into any number of mirrors; every mirror will tell you
> the same, butNO MIRROR CAN EVER SHAVE YOU. YOU HAVE TO SHAVE YOURSELF,
> instead ofwasting time looking into mirror after mirror it is BEST to
> start shavingafter having looked into the first mirror and known the truth.
>
> So also all the books will tell you the same truth, perhaps
> in slightlydifferent ways. Instead of wasting time reading book after
> book WHYNOT REALISE FOR YOURSELF WHAT WAS OBVIOUS FROM THE VERY FIRST
> BOOK".
>
> Theend.
>
> unquote.
> I have nothing more to say about your comments.
> With respectful namaskars,Sreenivasa Murthy
>
> On Sunday, 23 February, 2020, 1:36:17 pm IST, Jaldhar H. Vyas via
> Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020, sreenivasa murthy via Advaita-l wrote:
>
> You didn't like it when I called your views asampradayic but what to make
> of sentiments such as these?
>
> > Since the epics and puranas state the same tattva
> > as taught by the upanishads,a mumukshu who has confined himself to
> Upanishads
> > and Sri Shankara's commentaries
>
> And what is the legitimacy of that when the upanishads themselves refer to
> itihasa/purana as the "5th Veda" and Shankaracharya has quoted from them?
>
>
> > may not need any help from other sources like puranas and other texts.
> > To read / study other texts will be simply a waste of time and energy.
>
> I am reminded of the story of the Caliph Omar who supposedly ordered the
> destruction of the Library of Alexandria saying that "If these books are
> opposed to the Quran they are heresy and should be burned. If they confirm
> the truth of the Quran they are redundant and it doesn't matter if they
> burn." Needless to say that sort of idea is alien to our dharma.
>
>
> > He can as well use that time and energy for adyatmayoga
>
> When it is known that Brahman is all, what kind of adhyatmayoga makes
> distinctions such as "waste of time and energy"?
>
> You would be on firmer footing if you kept your criticism to shastras that
> teach duality but those are not what were being quoted in this case.
>
> --
> Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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