[Advaita-l] Fwd: Fwd: Omnipresence

Kaushik Chevendra chevendrakaushik at gmail.com
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I am sorry Sir, I just wanted to know if any advaitas had posted these
questions what their replies were. I am interested in advaita only. I won't
be posting anymore questions regarding tatvada.
I didn't understand your statment about Shruthi virudha.
Once again thank you

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praNAms
Hare Krishna

I think you have more doubts in dvaita (tattvavaada) than Advaita 😊 There
are plenty of material available in web to clarify these doubts from
dvaitins' point of view.  Better have a look at it.  If you ask these
doubts to  advaitins, obviously we see the problem  in doubt itself as it
is the problem of dvaita and more importantly shruti viruddha!!😊

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar

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Also in Upanishads realisation is seeing atman(isvara or self) everywhere.
Please shed light on this.


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But regarding panchantantra sir?
Dvaitas accept panchantantra . But panchatantra says souls are created by
vasudeva.
Thank you.

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Date: Sat 25 Jul, 2020, 9:30 AM
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Namaste

The Dvaitis say Ishwara is the One and Only Independent Reality. The world
and souls are also real but they are Dependent Reality. If the Srutis say
Brahman was only existing in the beginning it means  Brahman the
Independent was existing. But the world and souls were also existing along
with Brahman as Dependent realities.

Kindly study the Paradhina Visesapti Vada of Dvaita to see more details.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:45 PM Kaushik Chevendra via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Narayana upanishad says only narayana existed in beginning. If the
> souls are seperate and eternal there exists something else other than
narayana.
> This contradicta shruti.
>
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2020, 22:00 Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l, <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Namaste
> >
> > The Acharya of Dvaitis has accepted only the Nimitta Karanatva of
> Ishwara.
> > That means the world did not spring out of Ishvara's body. The
> > Jeevas
are
> > always separate from Ishvara and Jada is separate from Jeeva and
Ishwara.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *jiiveshvara bheda chaiva jadeshvara bheda tatha |jiiva-bhedo
> mithashchaiva
> > jaDa-jiiva-bheda tatha |mithashcha jada-bhedo.ayam prapajncho
> > bheda-panchakaH ||– paramashruti*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *“The difference between the jîva (soul) and Îshvara (Creator),and
> > the difference between jaDa (insentient) and Îshvara;and the
> > difference
> between
> > various jîvas, and the difference between jaDa and jîva;and the
> difference
> > between various jaDas.”*
> >
> > *-Paramopanishad*
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 8:32 PM Kaushik Chevendra via Advaita-l <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> > > In dvaita philosophy there is a difference between jiva, isvara,
> matter,
> > > doesn't this compromise the omnipresence of isvara.
> > > If isvara alone existed in beginning and nothing else how was
> > > matter created in dvaita philosophy? He has to create matter from
> > > himself
only
> > as
> > > nothing else existed.
> > > What is the dvaitas reply to the above questions?
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