[Advaita-l] शास्त्रविधानस्य उत्सृजनम् (BG 17.1)

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste.

Swami Shankarananda was very well known in Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh for
his discourses on BG

Regards

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 9:05 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste.
>
> My response is based on the talks on BG by Swami Shankarananda.
>
> Regards
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 9:02 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Namaste.
>>
>> Three types of human beings are recognized. First are those who are aware
>> of the shastras but due to lack of faith in them act according to their own
>> sweet will and pleasure. They are termed as ones endowed with AsurI
>> tendencies or asurAs. The second category of human beings are those who
>> know the shastras and with abundant faith perform actions in accordance
>> with the same. They are termed as ones endowed with daIvI (दैवी)
>> tendencies or as daIvIs (दैवी). The third category are those who have no
>> particular concerns regarding shastras, but have firm faith in their elders
>> and accordingly perform acts in accordance with whatever their elders were
>> performing irrespective of whether they conformed to shastras or not. The
>> traits of both the first two categories are to be found in this third
>> category in different degrees.
>>
>> The first two categories are covered in Chapter 16 of BG while the third
>> category forms the subject matter for Chapter 17.
>>
>> Thus there is no contradiction between the verses mentioned in the post
>> as they pertain to different categories of human beings.
>> Regards
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 12:51 PM Venkata sriram P via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Namaste,
>>>
>>> यः शास्त्रविधिमुत्सृज्य वर्तते कामकारतः।
>>> न स सिद्धिमवाप्नोति न सुखं न परां गतिम्।।16.23।।
>>>
>>> ये शास्त्रविधिमुत्सृज्य यजन्ते श्रद्धयाऽन्विताः।
>>> तेषां निष्ठा तु का कृष्ण सत्त्वमाहो रजस्तमः।।17.1।।
>>>
>>> With reference to above two shlokas of BG vide 16.23 & 17.1, the
>>> former is "शास्त्रं वेदः तस्य विधिं कर्तव्याकर्तव्यज्ञानकारणं
>>> विधिप्रतिषेधाख्यम्" ie.,
>>> "not following the vidhi & nishedhas as per the scriptures and acts as
>>> per the impulsion of his passion" ; whereas, the later one is
>>> "शास्त्रविधिम् अपश्यन्तः वृद्धव्यवहारदर्शनादेव श्रद्दधानतया"
>>> ie., by ignoring the scriptural injunctions who follow as per their
>>> elders.
>>>
>>> If we go by the former one, one attains happiness neither here nor
>>> elsewhere.
>>> Hence, Bhagavan Krishna urges to follow the scriptural injunctions.
>>>
>>> If we go by the later one, here also, scriptural injunctions are not
>>> followed
>>> but the doer follows his elders and acts as per his sweet will and
>>> his faith is called स्वभावजा.
>>>
>>> When the later is स्वभावजा which is not as per scriptural injunctions
>>> 'ये शास्त्रविधिमुत्सृज्य यजन्ते श्रद्धयाऽन्विताः' how come Bhagavan
>>> Krishna says
>>> "अशास्त्रविहितं घोरं तप्यन्ते ये तपो जनाः" and "अफलाकाङ्क्षिभिर्यज्ञो
>>> विधिदृष्टो य इज्यते".
>>>
>>> Here, अशास्त्रविहितं (न शास्त्रविहितम्) and विधिदृष्टो
>>> (शास्त्रचोदनादृष्टो) are used.
>>>
>>> Are these not self-contradictory & mutually exclusive statements when
>>> the
>>> shraddha itself is 'svabhAvajA' which is based on not following the
>>> scriptures
>>> "शास्त्रविधिमुत्सृज्य".
>>>
>>> Pls throw some light on the above.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> sriram
>>>
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