[Advaita-l] Relation between the object and its attributes

[sreenivasa murthy]

 Dear Sri Raghav Kumar Dwivedula,Kindly refer to your posting dated May 19,2020.
Please permit me to draw your kind permission 
to the following Shruti mantrasand to the commentaries by Sri Shankara.This was sent to  friend of mine 
who is also a member of this group. 

Quote :
The Advaitic position is this:ahamEvEdagM sarvam || Chandogya 7-25-1AtmaivEdagM sarvam || Chandogya  7-25-2Atmata Eva idagaM sarvam || Chandogya 7-26-1
Sri Shankara writes in his commentaries to 
Brahmasutra 3-2-19, BruhadaraNyaka mantra 2-1-19
and Bruhadaranyaka mantra 2-4-6:(1) AtmA sarvagatatvAt sarvAnanyatvAcca || Brahmasutra 3-2-19(2) AtmavyatirEkENa vastvantarABAvAt || BruhadaraNyaka 2-1-19(3) na hi AtmavyatirEkENa anyat kiMcit asti || Bruhadaranyaka 2-4-6
In the Light of the above teachings What relationship can exist between the object and its attributes which are nothing but appearances as per the Chandogya Sruti which says vAcAramBaNaM vikArO nAmadhEyam .Unquote.The truth about the above teachings can be verified 
and realised within oneself by oneself
by adopting the avastharaya prakriye as taught by Srutiand Sri Shankara only. 
and can arrive at the understanding 
brahmaivedagM visvaM variShTham as taught inMundaka Upanishad.

With respectful namaskars,Sreenivasa Murthy


  
>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 05:12:11 PM GMT+5:30, Raghav Kumar Dwivedula <
>> raghavkumar00 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Namaste Sada ji
>> I read a few passages of the relevant portion of the book.
>>
>> The main topic from around page 250 has to do with refutation of any
>> relation or sambandha between two eternal entities as per the vaiseShikas
>> and sAmkhyas. The author concludes by saying that in Shankaracharya's view
>> the substantive alone exists upon which there is adhyasa or superimposition
>> of attributes. He gives the example of devadutta alone being the person
>> even he becomes devadutta, the father or devadutta, the son etc. Attributes
>> have no existence apart from the substantive (the "object").
>>
>> All this in the context of tadananyatvam arambhaNashabdAdibhyaH BS1.3.14.
>>
>> Extending this what the author indicates echoing Shankara - there is only
>> one substantive in this entire creation everything else is a superimposed
>> attribute ; vAcArambhaNam - a notional speech-based word which does not
>> have any substantive correlate.
>>
>> So if we say red flower. It's actually brahman on which flowerness is
>> "attributed" (adhyastha) and then subsequently, redness is attributed.
>> (adhyastha).
>>
>> So to answer your question at a first level - the only sambandha or
>> relation accepted in Advaita is *adhyAsa sambandha* between the only vastu
>> or substantive in creation which is Brahman. There are no other
>> substantives (i.e., "Objects" in the world). All other so-called objects
>> like pot, cloth etc., are actually "attributes" (i.e., nAmarupAtmakAni and
>> thus vAcarambhaNAni) i.e., mithyA.
>>
>> Om
>> Raghav
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 19 May, 2020, 1:47 PM Kuntimaddi Sadananda, <
>> kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Raghav Kumar - PraNAms
>>
>> Not sure what chapter it is. I am looking book on google it opened on
>> page 250 or so and runs into many pages where refutation of other doctrines
>> are provided.
>>
>> Chadramouliji - PraNams
>>
>> I am looking fundamentally what the Advaitic position is in terms of
>> attribute and its substantive. Most of the discussions I find involve
>> refutation of other schools of thought and not sure if what exactly is
>> Advaitic stand and if there is any difference between the two schools of
>> thought.
>>
>> Hari Om!
>> Sadananda
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 01:12:48 PM GMT+5:30, Raghav Kumar Dwivedula
>> via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Namaste Sadaji
>> which particular chapter is proving confusing in the above book?
>> Om
>> Raghav
>>
>> On Mon, 18 May, 2020, 9:32 PM Kuntimaddi Sadananda via Advaita-l, <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>> > PraNAms
>> > What is Adviatic position regarding the relationship between the object
>> > and its attributes? I was trying to read the book and it is very
>> > confusing. Hari Om!Sadananda
>> >
>> > The Philosophy of Sankar's Advaita Vedanta
>> > Shyama Kumar Chattopadhyaya - Advaita - 2000 - 396 pages
>> >
>> > Study on Śārīrakamīmāṃsābhāsỵa by Śaṅkarācārya.
>>
>> >
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