[Advaita-l] Mandukya UP - Praviviktabhuk definition

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste Praveen Ji,

I agree that the jIva experiences subtle objects. But in the current
context, I am only meaning that the subtle objects are not any subtle
objects, but only those that form part of the jIva himself. i am
understanding the sukshma shaRira as part of jIva. This understanding in
the current context is also borne out by the bhAshya itself.

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yasyeti antaHpraj~naH, viShayashUnyAyAM praj~nAyAM kevalaprakAshasvarUpAyAM
viShayitvena bhavatIti taijasaH | vishvasya saviShayatvena praj~nAyAH
sthUlAyA bhojyatvam ; iha punaH kevalA vAsanAmAtrA praj~nA bhojyeti
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Regards

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 4:08 PM Praveen R. Bhat <bhatpraveen at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Chandramouli ji,
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 4:00 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Namaste.
>>
>> Reg  <<  a subject who experiences the pravivikta object Finally, it
>> means one who
>> experiences that which is different/separate >>,
>>
>> Pravivikta is here interpreted  as ** different**. Should it not be
>> understood as  ** differentiating oneself or itself  ** ??.
>>
> No, for the same grammatical reasons as explained.
>
> That is how praviviktabhuk  is understood as jIva who differentiates
>> himself,
>>
> No, a jIva who experiences subtle objects which are different from gross
> objects. A jIva being different is not a meaning that can be arrived at in
> the given samAsa.
>
>> meaning thereby that the dream creation is nothing but his own previous
>> experiences or vAsanas, his Sukshma sharIra,  and enjoys the same.
>>
> You're right, but that meaning doesn't fit the jIva being different but
> experiencing something different.
>
> Kind rgds,
> --Praveen R. Bhat
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